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Old 03-09-2020, 09:27 PM   #281
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So hows that rate of return working out for you forum professionals. In it for the long-term right. Hows the draw off?
I am still fine. with 35% equities and 5-7 years of cash, this is not affecting my daily life. As I told DW, the main people it might impact are the ones we intend to leave money to. I do not need to maximize my returns, so my losses are relatively small compared to others.

While I hate seeing the market going down, I have always modeled what would happen with a 50-60% market selloff to my portfolio. If I was comfortable with the result, no worries.

I am not expecting a fast rebound, but whatever it takes I believe we will be fine.
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Old 03-10-2020, 07:19 AM   #282
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what's to manage? Living off fixed (pension/ss) and the rest is in an index fund.
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Old 03-10-2020, 07:51 AM   #283
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I feel like I am "advised" by owning things like Wellington or Fidelity contrafund. Other then that I am YOYO. (you're on your own-phrase usually followed by profanity)
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Old 03-10-2020, 08:00 AM   #284
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I totally manage my own nest egg. I have managed it since I started investing in the stock market in 1995.
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Old 03-18-2020, 06:13 AM   #285
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Well, I don't remember what that post was about, but my long term rate of return will almost certainly be unchanged after the current excitement settles out. Right now our equities are probably down and our TIPS are probably up. I don't know because I haven't checked.

For those who are up or down lately it isn't at all about being smart or dumb; it's simply about being lucky or unlucky.
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Never heard that one before.
You've never been a professional trader

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I don't think that is the word you were looking for....
Look it up
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Old 03-18-2020, 06:29 AM   #286
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My heart is with the retirees that are humble and respect the markets with impunity.
Impunity: freedom from punishment or exempt from injurious consequences.

Im confused too. Why are humble retirees who are exempt from injurious consequences deserving of your heart?
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Old 03-18-2020, 07:17 AM   #287
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There's a saying in our industry that Bulls and Bears make money and pigs and sheep get slaughtered.
Never heard that one before.
You've never been a professional trader

Look it up
I'm with Gumby. I'm familiar with a version of that:

"Bulls make money, bears make money and hogs (or pigs) get slaughtered."

I googled, and couldn't find a reference that lumped sheep with pigs/hogs getting slaughtered.

This ref says " Sheep are passive and fearful followers of trends, tips and gurus. They sometimes put on bull horns or a bearskin and try to swagger. You recognize them by their pitiful bleating when the market becomes volatile."

"Bleating" is not "slaughtering".

Can you look it up, and provide a link? I'm curious now. Especially since you were so insistent and condescending.

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Old 03-18-2020, 07:27 AM   #288
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I'm with Gumby. I'm familiar with a version of that:

"Bulls make money, bears make money and hogs (or pigs) get slaughtered."

I googled, and couldn't find a reference that lumped sheep with pigs/hogs getting slaughtered.

This ref says " Sheep are passive and fearful followers of trends, tips and gurus. They sometimes put on bull horns or a bearskin and try to swagger. You recognize them by their pitiful bleating when the market becomes volatile."

"Bleating" is not "slaughtering".

Can you look it up, and provide a link? I'm curious now. Especially since you were so insistent and condescending.

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While not the poster you asked, here is only one such reference you asked for. Took me < 20 seconds to find.

https://www.northberkeleyinvestment....and-sheep.html

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Old 03-18-2020, 09:20 AM   #289
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There's a saying in our industry that Bulls and Bears make money and pigs and sheep get slaughtered.
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Never heard that one before.
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Yep, I manage my own money. If things go well, have myself to brag. If do poorly, no one to blame but myself. Wouldn't have things any other way .
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While not the poster you asked, here is only one such reference you asked for. Took me < 20 seconds to find.

https://www.northberkeleyinvestment....and-sheep.html
OK, I did google it, and spent more than 20 seconds looking, it didn't come up in any of the long list on the first page that I saw.

2008? Sure seems to be rare, compared to the other's we know of.

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Old 03-18-2020, 10:18 AM   #292
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Nestegg? I'm looking to the future thinking our nestegg consists of I bonds, CD's and EE bonds.
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OK, I did google it, and spent more than 20 seconds looking, it didn't come up in any of the long list on the first page that I saw.

2008? Sure seems to be rare, compared to the other's we know of.

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Granted it is more rare with the sheep included. FYI, I searched "Pigs and sheep get slaughtered" in quotes. I got 82 hits with google. Only one or two referred to actual slaughter houses. Use quotes (") with the phrase it helps to weed out a lot
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Granted it is more rare with the sheep included. FYI, I searched "Pigs and sheep get slaughtered" in quotes. I got 82 hits with google. Only one or two referred to actual slaughter houses. Use quotes (") with the phrase it helps to weed out a lot
I thought the saying was "Pigs get fed. Hogs get slaughtered" or ""Pigs get fat. Hogs get slaughtered".
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Yep, I manage my own money. If things go well, have myself to brag. If do poorly, no one to blame but myself. Wouldn't have things any other way .
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Yep, I manage my own money. If things go well, have myself to brag. If do poorly, no one to blame but myself. Wouldn't have things any other way .
Where's the fun in that?
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