|
|
IRS has a 12.3 million pieces of mail backlog
07-02-2020, 12:17 PM
|
#1
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 9,953
|
IRS has a 12.3 million pieces of mail backlog
Hearing in Congress today. There is apparently some chat going on to extend the filing deadline for 2019 taxes until 10/15.
As of today the IRS commissioner is saying the deadline won't be extended.
The head of the National Treasury Employees Union is pushing for another extension. 12.3 million piece backlog of mail as of May 16 4.7 million of those were tax returns.
I haven't filed and am having trouble connecting with my tax guy, who I learned just got back from a trip to Vegas..give me strength. Right now I think I'll do a paper extension send a payment and let that pile up with the 12.3 pieces already waiting to be opened
|
|
|
|
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!
Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!
|
07-02-2020, 01:01 PM
|
#2
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: May 2013
Location: ATL --> Flyover Country
Posts: 6,649
|
Interesting. Seems like there are a lot of things in government that aren't moving too quickly these days.
I got an email a couple days ago from a law school friend asking if I was looking for a j*b. He is working from home for the SBA helping to process flagged PPP loan applications. The expectations for this j*b is that you are available/willing/able to w*rk on these applications between 10-12 hours a day 7 (yes, SEVEN) days a week. They are also still working on applications from Hurricane Harvey! If you don't remember, that hurricane was in August of 2017.
Oh, and I think it goes without saying, I told my friend that I was NOT interested in w*rking at all, let alone 80+ hours a week!
__________________
FIRE'd in 2014 @ 40 Years Old
Professional Retiree
|
|
|
07-02-2020, 02:07 PM
|
#3
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: central California
Posts: 1,134
|
For those individuals whose 2018 tax returns qualified them for a stimulus payment, but their 2019 tax return did not, would it be of any benefit to apply for a tax filing extension? If a 2nd tax stimulus is approved by Congress, would this delayed filing possibly be to one’s benefit?
|
|
|
07-02-2020, 02:36 PM
|
#4
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 11,078
|
Years ago I was part of a team to respond to the IRS on renovating the way they handled mail and allow modernizing their legacy systems. In the end they canceled the RFP for lack of funding.
I do remember some of the descriptions of the current processes and systems. They have problems.
|
|
|
07-02-2020, 02:45 PM
|
#5
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,024
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ivinsfan
...I think I'll do a paper extension send a payment and let that pile up with the 12.3 pieces already waiting to be opened
|
I owe a lot of money with my 2019 return due to a large Roth conversion last December. I also owe estimated payments for 1Q and 2Q this year. If there's no additional extension, I like the idea of sending paper checks for all this and letting it go into the pile. Of course, I'll have to hold the cash in my checking account anyway, where it doesn't earn anything. So it doesn't really buy me much except some personal amusement.
And yes, we qualified for stimulus based on 2018. Income in 2019 is significantly higher due to the Roth conversion. So I also like the idea of filing an extension, just in case there's a 2nd round of stimulus with similar criteria. And if there is, I bet they send a 2nd check to my deceased FIL.
__________________
Retired at 52 in July 2013. On to better things...
AA: 85/15 WR: 2.7% SI: 2 pensions, SS later
|
|
|
07-02-2020, 03:07 PM
|
#6
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 9,953
|
Someone here just talked to IRS phone support for the Utah processing center. They are not due to return to the office until around July 13 and figure it will take until Aug to begin processing piled up returns, if they do in fact return on July 13. They have been accuring pay and bennies at the normal rate since the shutdown. If I worked there I'd be temped to use up some vacation time to avoid the chaos at the office.
One wonders if the IRS will ever be able to dig itself out of this hole. This shutdown happened during prime tax season.
|
|
|
07-02-2020, 04:56 PM
|
#7
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,581
|
Just mailed my estimates today, It'll be interesting to see when the IRS, and the state of PA, cash those checks. I he suspect that the estimates will be cashed rather timely, the address will probably reveal what is in the envelope.
|
|
|
07-02-2020, 05:23 PM
|
#8
|
Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 5,665
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by RE2Boys
Just mailed my estimates today, It'll be interesting to see when the IRS, and the state of PA, cash those checks. I he suspect that the estimates will be cashed rather timely, the address will probably reveal what is in the envelope.
|
I sent in estimates taxes for Fed and State in April. They were cashed before I returned from the post office.
I'll probably mail the next set this weekend.
__________________
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without.
|
|
|
07-02-2020, 06:09 PM
|
#9
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: DuPage County IL
Posts: 2,702
|
just the other day i finally received a green return from written information sent to the IRS last April. roughly 9-weeks.
__________________
Rich
Ham Radio, Sport Pilot, RVer
FIRE: 8/11/2005, age 55y,1d
Dispatcher, then shift supv, then administrator for a regional 9-1-1 call center
|
|
|
07-02-2020, 08:09 PM
|
#10
|
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 10,656
|
They have separate addresses for refunds and payments for a reason. I've never mailed a check to a tax collector that "sat in a pile" for any significant amount of time.
|
|
|
07-02-2020, 10:06 PM
|
#11
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Spending the Kids Inheritance and living in Chicago
Posts: 17,012
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by swakyaby
For those individuals whose 2018 tax returns qualified them for a stimulus payment, but their 2019 tax return did not, would it be of any benefit to apply for a tax filing extension? If a 2nd tax stimulus is approved by Congress, would this delayed filing possibly be to one’s benefit?
|
As long as you got the stimulus check, you are golden.
__________________
Fortune favors the prepared mind. ... Louis Pasteur
|
|
|
07-02-2020, 10:11 PM
|
#12
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 9,953
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by sengsational
They have separate addresses for refunds and payments for a reason. I've never mailed a check to a tax collector that "sat in a pile" for any significant amount of time.
|
I'm pretty sure some of those 4 million plus unopened tax returns have a check inside.
|
|
|
07-03-2020, 08:04 AM
|
#13
|
Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 22,974
|
I filed my 2019 return in March. They cashed the check immediately, but did not process my return. So we got a stimulus payment based on 2018 numbers.
__________________
Living an analog life in the Digital Age.
|
|
|
07-03-2020, 08:07 AM
|
#14
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 9,953
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
I filed my 2019 return in March. They cashed the check immediately, but did not process my return. So we got a stimulus payment based on 2018 numbers.
|
So when they say "unopened" returns maybe they mean opened but not yet processed into the system..
|
|
|
07-03-2020, 08:33 AM
|
#15
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Orlando
Posts: 2,638
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by RE2Boys
Just mailed my estimates today, It'll be interesting to see when the IRS, and the state of PA, cash those checks. I he suspect that the estimates will be cashed rather timely, the address will probably reveal what is in the envelope.
|
Do you choose not to use the electronic payment system or just default to snail mail and checks?
|
|
|
07-03-2020, 09:16 AM
|
#16
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,683
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
I filed my 2019 return in March. They cashed the check immediately, but did not process my return. So we got a stimulus payment based on 2018 numbers.
|
I guess that happened with me, too. My 2019 return, filed in mid-March, showed an income too high to get a stimulus check. But I got one anyway, so they must have used my 2018 income which had an income low enough to get the check.
__________________
Retired in late 2008 at age 45. Cashed in company stock, bought a lot of shares in a big bond fund and am living nicely off its dividends. IRA, SS, and a pension await me at age 60 and later. No kids, no debts.
"I want my money working for me instead of me working for my money!"
|
|
|
07-13-2020, 03:02 PM
|
#17
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,024
|
I just snail-mailed my 2019 extension as well as 2020 estimates for 1Q and 2Q. We owe a lot of money with the 2019 return due to a large Roth conversion last December. But we qualified for the last stimulus based on 2018. So the extension is just in case there's another round of stimulus with similar criteria. No rush to get our data in their system, although they could infer quite a bit based on the size of the check I sent.
I decided to do the two estimates by paper as well, just for fun. We'll see how long it takes to process my paper checks once they are added to the pile. I suspect it won't really take very long... probably a lot more automated than I'm envisioning. But this whole process was weirdly nostalgic... writing checks, licking envelopes, hunting for stamps, driving to the post office.
__________________
Retired at 52 in July 2013. On to better things...
AA: 85/15 WR: 2.7% SI: 2 pensions, SS later
|
|
|
07-13-2020, 03:11 PM
|
#18
|
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Conroe, Texas
Posts: 18,645
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra9777
I just snail-mailed my 2019 extension as well as 2020 estimates for 1Q and 2Q. We owe a lot of money with the 2019 return due to a large Roth conversion last December. But we qualified for the last stimulus based on 2018. So the extension is just in case there's another round of stimulus with similar criteria. No rush to get our data in their system, although they could infer quite a bit based on the size of the check I sent.
I decided to do the two estimates by paper as well, just for fun. We'll see how long it takes to process my paper checks once they are added to the pile. I suspect it won't really take very long... probably a lot more automated than I'm envisioning. But this whole process was weirdly nostalgic... writing checks, licking envelopes, hunting for stamps, driving to the post office.
|
The IRS has "check sniffing dogs" to scan the incoming mail to get that check quickly!
__________________
*********Go Astros!*********
|
|
|
07-13-2020, 03:22 PM
|
#19
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,326
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra9777
I decided to do the two estimates by paper as well, just for fun. We'll see how long it takes to process my paper checks once they are added to the pile. I suspect it won't really take very long... probably a lot more automated than I'm envisioning. But this whole process was weirdly nostalgic... writing checks, licking envelopes, hunting for stamps, driving to the post office.
|
Mine (Q1 and Q2) were both cashed within a week.
|
|
|
07-13-2020, 04:28 PM
|
#20
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Coronado
Posts: 3,674
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra9777
I just snail-mailed my 2019 extension as well as 2020 estimates for 1Q and 2Q. We owe a lot of money with the 2019 return due to a large Roth conversion last December. But we qualified for the last stimulus based on 2018. So the extension is just in case there's another round of stimulus with similar criteria. No rush to get our data in their system, although they could infer quite a bit based on the size of the check I sent.
I decided to do the two estimates by paper as well, just for fun. We'll see how long it takes to process my paper checks once they are added to the pile. I suspect it won't really take very long... probably a lot more automated than I'm envisioning. But this whole process was weirdly nostalgic... writing checks, licking envelopes, hunting for stamps, driving to the post office.
|
I once saw a presentation from an IRS staffer about how mail is processed. Their goal is to cash all checks within 24 hours of receipt, and they usually succeed. They know which envelopes have checks because you send 1040 ES and 1040s with payments to different addresses than 1040s with refunds.
After they cash the checks, they batch up the paper returns and enter them all into e-files (they probably scan them nowadays), so everything ends up in the same system on the IRS end no matter how they receive it.
|
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Threads
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
» Quick Links
|
|
|