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Old 04-05-2018, 09:50 AM   #21
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So I'm coming home today, riding along I-95 and I see a billboard advertising a "wealth and empowerment" seminar.

The speakers...

Tony Robbins
Les Brown
Nick Foles
and Gary Vaynerkchuk.

I never even heard of Gary.

The prices range from 75.00 bucks to 1500 dollars. Here's the thing not one of these folks would I consider some type of financial guru.

I mean I'm from Philly so Nick is pretty popular fella but that's for football.

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Old 04-05-2018, 09:53 AM   #22
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So I'm coming home today, riding along I-95 and I see a billboard advertising a "wealth and empowerment" seminar.

The speakers...

Tony Robbins
Les Brown
Nick Foles
and Gary Vaynerkchuk.

I never even heard of Gary.

The prices range from 75.00 bucks to 1500 dollars. Here's the thing not one of these folks would I consider some type of financial guru.

I mean I'm from Philly so Nick is pretty popular fella but that's for football.
I do not know anything about any of the speakers, but it sounds like "wealth and empowerment" seminar all right.

It's wealth and empowerment for the speakers and organizers.
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Old 04-07-2018, 03:58 PM   #23
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I’ve got a friend who’s a big Tony Robbins disciple and attended “wealth mastery.” Now virtually all her millions are in a whole life insurance policy. I think you could get that kind of financial advice for just an arm...no need to also pay a leg.
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You know I attended one of these things 20 years ago. It had a positive influence on me. Not because I bought their stories, however many did, because I started reading and listening to smarter people. Not these folks.
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You know I attended one of these things 20 years ago. It had a positive influence on me. Not because I bought their stories, however many did, because I started reading and listening to smarter people. Not these folks.
That is a really good point. Open the mind to other ideas, and more will follow.

But as an old timer once said to me (probably stolen from another source): It is OK to have an open mind, just don't open it so far your brain falls out.
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lol, I just got an email with a groupon for the seminar.
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I was appalled by the recent clip of Tony Robbins’ views on women. https://mobile.twitter.com/nowthisne...89487836778496
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As someone who passed these billboards for years and shook his head, it’s refreshing to know others out there have and are doing the same.
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Old 04-09-2018, 05:23 AM   #29
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All I had to see was Tony Robbins to run from this scam.

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I have heard Gary V on a podcast and he's entertaining.

Don't know much about any of these people.

You never know maybe one would gain a nugget of info if one goes to the seminar!?

It is possible some people benefit from them (besides just the speakers). Otherwise hundreds of people wouldn't keep going to them!?

A bunch of negative nellies on this thread.
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You know I attended one of these things 20 years ago. It had a positive influence on me. Not because I bought their stories, however many did, because I started reading and listening to smarter people. Not these folks.
They're fine for a "power of positive thinking" guru.

Though Napoleon Hill or Dale Carnegie will give you the same approach for a lot less money.
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They're fine for a "power of positive thinking" guru.

Though Napoleon Hill or Dale Carnegie will give you the same approach for a lot less money.
I did the Dale Carnegie class. I really enjoyed and got a lot of benefits from it. A gal I w*rked with took the same class and referred to it as "walking naked through hell".
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Besides, from what I understand ER.org is completely free and you'll learn all you need to.
And a whole lot more.
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Yes, it is definitely a wealth seminar - for whoever gets the $75 - $1,500 fees.
There are dozens of these guys doing seminars. Everyone has their own theory how to become wealthy.

I personally like 'The Millionaire Nextdoor' by Thomas J. Stanley and William D. Danko

But this means I don't have to spend money attending seminars.

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Negative Nellie here.

Just not a fan of paying someone money to blow smoke up my ass. FI is simple, but can be very hard for some folks (keep up with the Jones, etc). As soon as someone starts telling me "it's complicated," or, "there's a secret sauce," my bullshit meter pegs out.
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I have heard Gary V on a podcast and he's entertaining.

Don't know much about any of these people.

You never know maybe one would gain a nugget of info if one goes to the seminar!?

It is possible some people benefit from them (besides just the speakers). Otherwise hundreds of people wouldn't keep going to them!?

A bunch of negative nellies on this thread.
Actually I'm not really a negative nellie, I'm pretty new to the investment and wealth management game so I'm usually pretty open to listen to individual approaches.

My problem is what makes these guys qualifies. Nick Foles? is he really an investment expert? or is he going to give me the story about how he went from almost retired nfl backup QB to super bowl darling. And Les Brown is probably famously known for being married to Gladys knight (of Gladys knight and the pips fame) and squandering her dough.
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Actually I'm not really a negative nellie, I'm pretty new to the investment and wealth management game so I'm usually pretty open to listen to individual approaches.

My problem is what makes these guys qualifies. Nick Foles? is he really an investment expert? or is he going to give me the story about how he went from almost retired nfl backup QB to super bowl darling. And Les Brown is probably famously known for being married to Gladys knight (of Gladys knight and the pips fame) and squandering her dough.
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It might be worth it if Les Brown's Band of Renown plays...
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I have never attended any “free dinner” investment/empowerment evening. There is plenty of investment/empowerment information on the internet.
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I have never attended any “free dinner” investment/empowerment evening. There is plenty of investment/empowerment information on the internet.

Yeah, but they don't give you free food.
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