robnplunder
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Yep, it's the beautiful people syndrome. Trouble is, they're all emotional train wrecks. There's a reason Justin Bieber lives here...
Not to mention cosmetic surgeries ....
Yep, it's the beautiful people syndrome. Trouble is, they're all emotional train wrecks. There's a reason Justin Bieber lives here...
Nobody goes there any more, it's too crowded.Most people I know living there rarely go to the beach, if at all. Too crowded!
The (not so) fine art of hyperboleNobody goes there any more, it's too crowded.
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I'm sure you recognize this as a Yogi Berra quote.The (not so) fine art of hyperbole
Like I said, the freeways are busy. Obviously when there are two bridges to cross the Lake in a metro this size, you are going to be in traffic if you put yourself there. And workers are pretty much stuck. But I doubt I am on 520 twice a year. I rarely leave the central city, or if I go to another neighborhood I take a bus. IF people from the suburbs transplant their living habits into the central city, obviously that is not optimal. The Major and I just noted something that we experience as a pleasant feature of city life, but I doubt that we are living the same life that you are or were when you live in Puget Sound..Even on weekends, to go to a store a couple of miles away, you have to endure a lot of stop lights with a lot of cross traffic.
It's not just being stuck in traffic. It's the air quality of being in the middle of it all. And we're not talking major cities, just the suburbs of them.
ETA: I distinctly recall crawling traffic east-bound on the 520 going across Lake Washington on weekends too. This was in the early '90s.
I went with some friends once to visit their relatives in Stamford (or, in my best accent...Steeyamfuhd) for a bat mitzvah. Now, living in the Bay Area I'm used to seeing occasional displays of wealth. But driving around Stamford, it was amusing driving by some prep school or private school, and seeing the multiple Ferraris, Bentleys, etc, parked for a lacrosse game or some other outdoor event.
There are "pockets" of wealth here in the Bay Area, but driving around Stamford it seemed more...evenly dispersed, for lack of a better description. Maybe it was due to the smaller size of CT. It was more concentrated in that area I guess.
That was the preferred location for the people I worked with when we moved back to NY in '97. Even then, outside of Stamford, the properties were all >$1M. DW and I chose a less costly part of Westchester simply because we had previously lived there and were more familiar with the area. It was my first experience with executive peer pressure.Lower Fairfield County is known as The Gold Coast for good reason.Gold Coast (Connecticut) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Everyone has a preferred living style. Whatever experience or lack of experience your opinions about city life reflect, it may be not at all typical. Trader Joe is 5 blocks from me, Safeway one or two more. Even recovering from my surgery it is easy to walk to get my groceries, and also to walk to specialty stores nearby. It is certainly possible to live in the city far from services, but few with any choices would choose this.No I'm talking about going to Safeways or Trader Joe's, not some mega mall. It's not bumper to bumper but you can hit every light after 10 AM on weekends because everyone is out and about.
Number of millionaires in U.S. reaches a new high - latimes.com
I too felt most people have more money these days than I remember in the past but thought it was may be because I hang out on sites like ER and I live in SoCal? I don't see any old cars on the roads anymore. My upper middle class neighborhood has mostly BMWs/Mercedes and every house has at least 2 cars plus toys (RVs, dirt bikes, SeaDoos etc). The lines at Starbucks are longer than I ever remember. Should I be worried that the trend will make inflation higher and my $1M target for ER won't suffice? Or are the two unrelated? Or is this nothing new because every generation has had similar trends
Nobody goes there any more, it's too crowded.
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I assume that you are single. If not, and you don't expect a high pension do not pass go. If you are single, and your preferred neighborhood is full of German luxury cars, I'd be unsatisfied with a $1mm retirement target.Number of millionaires in U.S. reaches a new high - latimes.com
I too felt most people have more money these days than I remember in the past but thought it was may be because I hang out on sites like ER and I live in SoCal? I don't see any old cars on the roads anymore. My upper middle class neighborhood has mostly BMWs/Mercedes and every house has at least 2 cars plus toys (RVs, dirt bikes, SeaDoos etc). The lines at Starbucks are longer than I ever remember. Should I be worried that the trend will make inflation higher and my $1M target for ER won't suffice? Or are the two unrelated? Or is this nothing new because every generation has had similar trends
MarketWatch just published a story that Two-thirds of those who live paycheck to paycheck aren't poor. The gist is that two-thirds of the 38 million American households who consume all their disposable income every pay period aren't "poor," but earn about $50k/year and have "substantial" real estate holdings on the order of $50k worth. (I realize that if you live in LA and make only $50k, you are relatively poor for that area.)
I am highlighting this article, because I don't believe that all the people you see spending money really have a lot of money. They are having fun spending their money, but I bet their savings are not as much as you might assume.
Don't get caught up in what the Joneses are doing. Most of them are probably broke.
Some people on the ER boards may say, Oh, they are all broke, but I think that is sour grapes. There is a huge amount of wealth around anymore. These young people are not stupid losers, they have corporate savings plans and plenty more. I know some of them.
Not everyone living in LA or SF is a well-paid high-tech worker or entrepreneur. In fact, the difference between the have and have-not may be more obvious than in other places. But of course it is the same at large cities like NYC, Paris, London, etc...
What I find alarming is the envy of the have-not, as evidenced by the blockage and vandalism against the Google employee buses.
See: Google bus vandalized - NY Times and Google shuttle bus vandalized in Oakland - San Jose Mercury News.
While on a societal level, I can understand how extremes in incomes can breed unrest, on a personal level, I don't get it at all. My outlook has always been that everything in life is a process, beginning with the important first step of identifying what it is that you want. That's the hardest part because all you need do after that is figure out what you need to do in order to get it. The rest is simple execution. As long as the desire stays with you, it will give you the drive to execute.Not everyone living in LA or SF is a well-paid high-tech worker or entrepreneur. In fact, the difference between the have and have-not may be more obvious than in other places. But of course it is the same at large cities like NYC, Paris, London, etc...
What I find alarming is the envy of the have-not, as evidenced by the blockage and vandalism against the Google employee buses.
See: Google bus vandalized - NY Times and Google shuttle bus vandalized in Oakland - San Jose Mercury News.
What I saw with relatives and friends that I visited was that they were so pooped from fighting traffic during their daily commute that they spent most of their weekends at home to recuperate.
Perhaps once they retire, they will be able to enjoy amenities that their locales have to offer.
It has nothing to do with envy, and everything to do with displacement. I think it was on Business Insider yesterday that I saw a graphic of how dramatically rents in SF have jumped in the last year, as high as 40% in some areas of the city.
Apparently there is some sort of connection between the short supply of housing and the high rent or sales price of that housing. It's probably some sort of massive conspiracy...