Millionaire celebration!!

Being accredited is the only actual thing you do get (that I know about) for passing 1 million NW and nobody had mentioned it.

If you have that $1 million at Vanguard, you get Flagship status. Along with that, you get a "personal" representative. I've had a series of them. I've never talked to any of them.

Every few years, I want to talk to someone at Vanguard. Yesterday was one of those occasions. Because I have Flagship status, I couldn't actually get to talk to a representative. I just repeatedly got shuttled to the answering machine of my "personal" representative who was too busy to talk to me.

A few years ago, when I had my last question, I at least got "Your representative is not available, how can I help you?". I tried a couple of different ways to get help. I thought about telling them I wasn't a client. Maybe that would have worked.

So, getting ignored can be one of the other things you get with $1 million net worth.
 
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If you have that $1 million at Vanguard, you get Flagship status. Along with that, you get a "personal" representative. I've had a series of them. I've never talked to any of them.

Every few years, I want to talk to someone at Vanguard. Yesterday was one of those occasions. Because I have Flagship status, I couldn't actually get to talk to a representative. I just repeatedly got shuttled to the answering machine of my "personal" representative who was too busy to talk to me.

A few years ago, when I had my last question, I at least got "Your representative is not available, how can I help you?". I tried a couple of different ways to get help. I thought about telling them I wasn't a client. Maybe that would have worked.

So, getting ignored can be one of the other things you get with $1 million net worth.


I've found that my vanguard flagship rep does respond to emails quickly and thoroughly.... So sending one demanding "call me" might work!
 
I've found that my vanguard flagship rep does respond to emails quickly and thoroughly.... So sending one demanding "call me" might work!

Thanks. Perhaps this will work. But, jumping through extra hoops still makes me a second class client. I don't want any special treatment. At least in the past, I've not had this extra hassle for being a Flagship client.
 
For the millionaires, did you do anything special to celebrate when you realized you were a millionaire?

For those not yet there, do you have any plans for how you will celebrate?

I didn't do anything special when $1mm reached. It's just a number, and a number that doesn't mean much anymore.

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According to Wiki, if I want to be equal to a millionaire in 1959, about when I was born, I'd need over $8mm of today's QE bucks.
 
I didn't do anything special when $1mm reached. It's just a number, and a number that doesn't mean much anymore.

Millionaire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to Wiki, if I want to be equal to a millionaire in 1959, about when I was born, I'd need over $8mm of today's QE bucks.
This could be cross posited to the 'What is inflation?" thread. The US has not been a country unusually beset by inflation, but look at how much life difference is produced by inflation that is moderate at worst.

Ha
 
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So, in 1959, you'd only need about $125,000, to be in the same position as a millionaire today. Somehow though, that number just doesn't seem as magical....even though it was probably as hard to attain back then, maybe even harder than $1M is today.

I don't think people took as many risks back in those days, with the stock market, as they do today. At least, I know my family never did. They would just do checking, savings, CDs, savings bonds, etc. And, in my family at least, everybody got jobs with the government, railroad, or whatever, so they would get a pension, so there wasn't as much need to invest on your own.

Plus, unless my family is the exception, it seems like in those days paying off your home and owning it free and clear was a major goal, where nowadays people will often raid home equity. So I'd imagine more people had wealth tied to their home, rather than easily investible assets.

So, it might actually be easier to get to $1M today, than $125K back in 1959.
 
Crossed that point awhile ago like many on this site. I purchased a small bottle of champagne and marked the date on it. The real celebration, for me, is when we hit the annual 4% level to meet our living expenses. Having reached that I am going to be celebrated by telling my boss next month that I am going to part time with benefits or resigning!

Then hiking the VT Long Trail this August.
 
So, in 1959, you'd only need about $125,000, to be in the same position as a millionaire today. Somehow though, that number just doesn't seem as magical....even though it was probably as hard to attain back then, maybe even harder than $1M is today.

I don't think people took as many risks back in those days, with the stock market, as they do today. At least, I know my family never did. They would just do checking, savings, CDs, savings bonds, etc. And, in my family at least, everybody got jobs with the government, railroad, or whatever, so they would get a pension, so there wasn't as much need to invest on your own.

Plus, unless my family is the exception, it seems like in those days paying off your home and owning it free and clear was a major goal, where nowadays people will often raid home equity. So I'd imagine more people had wealth tied to their home, rather than easily investible assets.

So, it might actually be easier to get to $1M today, than $125K back in 1959.


$125,000 was a LOT of money back then for reference:

How Much things cost in 1959
Yearly Inflation Rate USA 1.01%
Average Cost of new house $12,400.00 Average Yearly Wages $5,010.00 Cost of a gallon of Gas 25 cents Average Cost of a new car $2,200.00 Movie Ticket $1.00 Loaf of Bread 20 cents Kodak Movie camera $67.50 Ladies Stockings $1.00
 
If you watch Mad Men, in the mid '60s, Don Draper as partner was getting mid 5-figure salary as partner.

Other guys were hoping to make $30k.

There are a lot of homes around Santa Clara Valley, which originally sold for about $30k in the early '70s. These are big ranch style homes on big lots in places like Los Altos.

Those homes are worth at least $2 million these days, maybe double that.
 
If you watch Mad Men, in the mid '60s, Don Draper as partner was getting mid 5-figure salary as partner.

Other guys were hoping to make $30k.

Heck, my Granddad was only making $6/hour when he retired from the railroad in 1974, with 34 years of service in!
 
$125,000 was a LOT of money back then for reference:


Average Yearly Wages $5,010.00


$125,000 x 4% = $5,000
$1,000,000 x 4% = $40,000

A different perspective, but based on this simple calc, it looks like $125k back then got you a lot further than one million today.
 
$125,000 x 4% = $5,000
$1,000,000 x 4% = $40,000

A different perspective, but based on this simple calc, it looks like $125k back then got you a lot further than one million today.

I think one major difference is that real estate was a lot cheaper back then. At least, around these parts it was. My grandparents sold a house in 1958 for $5800. Now granted, it was just a small Sears & Roebuck kit home style, maybe 900 square feet or so, and it needed a lot of work. But, just two years ago, another house of almost the same layout, and also a Sears & Roebuck, went on the market and sold for $152,000. And it was a total gut job, barely inhabitable.

Real estate might be hard to gauge though, because the newer houses they build today are much nicer than the ones back then. And the old houses from back then, if they're still around today, are often either in a state of horrible neglect, or they've been extensively remodeled.

But, by 1962 at least, in Bowie, the next town over, you could get a base 4br/2ba cape cod, around 1500 square feet with a central air, a 1 car garage, and roughly a quarter acre lot for about $12,000. Nowadays, those same houses are usually asking around $250-300k, sometimes more if they're really nice.

So in 1962, buying one of those houses would have only taken about 10% of your $125K nest egg. Today, it would take 25-30%, if not more, of your $1M nest egg.

Property taxes have gone up too, and faster than the rate of inflation I think. I found an old tax bill for my house awhile back, from 1961, and I think it was $200. Well, my last bill was about $3100, or a little over 15X.

And, things like gasoline have outpaced inflation, too. Cars, oddly enough, are one of the few things that HAVEN'T outpaced inflation, if you can believe that. $2200 wasn't going to get you much of a brand-new car in 1959. You might be able to get a full-sized Ford, Chevy, or Plymouth, but it would be a stripper model. My granddad bought a '57 Ford Fairlane 500, a '61 Galaxie 500, and then a '63 Monterrey, and each of those was around $3500 out the door with tax, tags etc. There was so much that was optional in those days...automatic, heater, backup lights, power steering/brakes, whitewall tires, two-tone paint (pretty passe by '61-63 though), AM radio, extra chrome trim, bigger engines, etc, that it didn't take much to jack up the price of a car. I think the base price of a '57 Fairlane 500 4-door hardtop was around $2400, so it didn't take much to jack it to $3500. Want air conditioning? It was around $400-500 back then...one reason that hardtops and convertibles were so popular. It was actually cheaper to buy a convertible without a/c, than a closed coupe with it!

Anyway, one of those $3500 cars would be about $28000 today. But today's $28K car would have air conditioning, power windows, locks, ABS, a nice stereo system, probably remote entry, air bags, and all sorts of safety and convenience equipment that hadn't even been dreamt of back in the late 50's/early 60's.
 
I have a bottle of Johnny Walker Blue Label that I've been saving for something special, maybe that will be it. BTW currently about 3/4 of the way there.
 
$125,000 x 4% = $5,000
$1,000,000 x 4% = $40,000

A different perspective, but based on this simple calc, it looks like $125k back then got you a lot further than one million today.

No money back then could get you a flat-screen TV, iPhone, cable TV. Homes were smaller then, and without the fancy kitchen and bathrooms we take for granted now. The typical car did not have A/C back then too.

Life is a lot more comfortable now even for people in the lower income range.
 
No money back then could get you a flat-screen TV, iPhone, cable TV. Homes were smaller then, and without the fancy kitchen and bathrooms we take for granted now. The typical car did not have A/C back then too.

Life is a lot more comfortable now even for people in the lower income range.

+1 My life right out of college was infinitely more luxurious than any of the Founding Fathers.
 
$125,000 x 4% = $5,000
$1,000,000 x 4% = $40,000

A different perspective, but based on this simple calc, it looks like $125k back then got you a lot further than one million today.

Maybe not as different as one might think. According to this source Average Salary , the median salary in Dec 2013 was $48,872. Of course, I'm well aware of the difference between median and average but not knowing how the 1959 figure was derived it may very well be that for both periods of time the equivalent of $1 million adjusted for inflation would provide close to the average wage at the proverbial 4% rate.
 
As others have pointed out, the average standard of living derived from that average income in 2013 was much higher than it was in 1959 (life expectancy, material goods, leisure time, etc).
 
Today, my wife and I just reached the $2MM milestone. We now consider ourselves to have F. U. money - the amount of money that, if our respective bosses pissed us off enough, we can tell them "F. U.". Most people in this country (U.S.) can only dream of having that much. You're darned right we're going to celebrate. Not sure how yet - maybe a super-nice dinner at a super-nice restaurant, or a really outstanding red wine (or both). Or maybe a long weekend at some luxury spa. We'll see.
 
We played "If I had a million dollars" by BareNaked Ladies and drank a Bud Light. Looking for a repeat performance soon.
 
Heck, my Granddad was only making $6/hour when he retired from the railroad in 1974, with 34 years of service in!

In 1974 I was fresh out of the Army, making $3.20 per hour at the electric company. First class linemen were making around $7.00- and I thought they were fabulously well paid, especially when they received over time pay :)
 
Its all relative.

I am a billionaire many times over in the local currency where I live.

I just went to the ATM and withdrew 5,000,000 in cash to pay my driver and maid their monthly salary.

Buy I don't feel rich - Its all relative.
 
I bought a $10 calculator to celebrate my attainment of 7 figure status.
 
Its all relative.

I am a billionaire many times over in the local currency where I live.

I just went to the ATM and withdrew 5,000,000 in cash to pay my driver and maid their monthly salary.

Buy I don't feel rich - Its all relative.

Well, if you can afford a driver and a maid I would say you definitely qualify as rich in whatever currency!
 
Its all relative.

I am a billionaire many times over in the local currency where I live.

I just went to the ATM and withdrew 5,000,000 in cash to pay my driver and maid their monthly salary.

Buy I don't feel rich - Its all relative.

A driver and a maid and you don't feel rich? What does it take for you to feel rich a private plan with a dedicated pilot?

If you lived in the US that would certainly feel rich granted that it requires much more to do that here.
 
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