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08-13-2008, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cute fuzzy bunny
Sorry dude, I thought I was giving you some good news, not engaging in a 'pissing contest'.
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No need to be defensive, dude. I was prefacing my post with the pissing contest remark so that my remarks were not misconstrued as being antagonistic or seemingly piss-contest-ish. I wasn't accusing you of starting or even engaging in a pissing contest.
At any rate, you guys are right. I am wrong. I called four more Toyota dealerships in Florida. Here is the run down of what I got:
Tampa: Date of purchase was the answer. I asked are you sure. The response was "absolutely."
Gainesville: I called again and got a different guy. Get this: The response was "Date of purchase for the miles portion but calendar year for the years portion." I said, "So the warranty clocks starts on January 1st?" The response was "yes."
Orlando: Date of purchase. "Are you sure?" "No, I'm not sure that that is correct, but I think it is."
Sarasota: Salesman did not know the answer. Put me on hold and came back and said he'd asked the sales manager and he said "date of purchase."
Suffice to say I think many of the salesmen don't know the truth. I should've known better.
I apologize for the mix up.
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08-13-2008, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by saluki9
Gatorbuzz, here is what I hope will be a helpful piece of advice.
Never believe anything a car salesperson, sales manager, or any dealer representative tells you. (of course I don't mean you 73SS454)
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Don't forget not to trust, annuity salespeople, stock brokers, other people in the financial industry. I didn't mean you Saluki.
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08-13-2008, 05:23 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Originally Posted by saluki9
Never believe anything a car salesperson, sales manager, or any dealer representative tells you. (of course I don't mean you 73SS454)
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Hey, 73 is retired now. He's reformed... 
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08-13-2008, 05:40 PM
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Always get it in writing. Also, if you are the type of person that likes to get an extended warranty or prepaid maintenance program. Never blindly take the offer from your dealer. There are places on the web that will offer large discounts on Toyota plans. It does not matter where you buy the car, your local dealer will honor it just the same.
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08-13-2008, 05:44 PM
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08-13-2008, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Art G
.......(also ask them if they will print this off for you to keep in your glove box{why haven't they changed that name? Does anyone keep gloves in them?}).
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For the 1st time in all of my driving years, I actually DO keep a pair of gloves in the glovebox! I amaze myself! 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saluki9
Gatorbuzz, here is what I hope will be a helpful piece of advice.
Never believe anything a car salesperson, sales manager, or any dealer representative tells you.
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If most car salesman/dealers/whatever are like the ones here in my town, Saluki is absolutely right! The bunch of swine car sellers around here have lied through their teeth for so long, they wouldn't know the truth if it was a sharp stick and they sat on it....they'd swear on their one-eyed, hunchback, crippled mother's grave that they were sitting on a plush cushion! 
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08-13-2008, 06:48 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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Originally Posted by GatorBuzz
No need to be defensive, dude. I was prefacing my post with the pissing contest remark so that my remarks were not misconstrued as being antagonistic or seemingly piss-contest-ish. I wasn't accusing you of starting or even engaging in a pissing contest.
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Then at this point I'd like to start a pissing contest with you regarding my level of defensiveness!
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08-13-2008, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Goonie
For the 1st time in all of my driving years, I actually DO keep a pair of gloves in the glovebox! I amaze myself!
If most car salesman/dealers/whatever are like the ones here in my town, Saluki is absolutely right! The bunch of swine car sellers around here have lied through their teeth for so long, they wouldn't know the truth if it was a sharp stick and they sat on it....they'd swear on their one-eyed, hunchback, crippled mother's grave that they were sitting on a plush cushion! |
After 35 years in the car biz, I've decided you guys are right. Customers never lie or jerk the salespeople around.
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08-13-2008, 07:56 PM
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No thanks! At this point I believe it's wise for me to exit stage, errrr thread, left. I've mucked this thread up enough as it is.
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08-13-2008, 08:28 PM
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If you were buying a new car, would you purchase an end of year close out [2008] or a 2009 model.
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I am thinking buying a Toyota Corolla. The price of each of the CE model is as follows:
09=$15,350
08=$14,405
07=$12,851
06=$11,293
The 2009 is completely redesigned. It is a bit larger inside and out. Looking at the price tags, I would choose the 06 or 07 model.
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08-13-2008, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 73ss454
Customers never lie or jerk the salespeople around.
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Only the ones who get promoted to financial advisor...
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08-14-2008, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 73ss454
Don't forget not to trust, annuity salespeople, stock brokers, other people in the financial industry. I didn't mean you Saluki.
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How about doctors? I mean they're on commission as well. How ever can we trust them? And lets not leave out those nasty waiters who try to upsell you. And rental car people trying to stick you with extra insurance.
Perhaps we can put together a list of people on here that we can trust, it should be much shorter.
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08-14-2008, 10:47 AM
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TO THE DEPTHS WITH YOU, THREAD MUCKER!!!!!!!!! 
Sorry... it just came to me, and I just had to share.
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08-14-2008, 11:55 AM
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Consult with your own advisor or representative. My thoughts should not be construed as investment advice. Past performance is no guarantee of future results (love that one).......:)
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08-14-2008, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Art G
How about doctors? I mean they're on commission as well. How ever can we trust them? And lets not leave out those nasty waiters who try to upsell you. And rental car people trying to stick you with extra insurance.
Perhaps we can put together a list of people on here that we can trust, it should be much shorter.
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In God we trust, ALL others pay cash.........
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08-14-2008, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Goonie
If most car salesman/dealers/whatever are like the ones here in my town, Saluki is absolutely right! The bunch of swine car sellers around here have lied through their teeth for so long, they wouldn't know the truth if it was a sharp stick and they sat on it....they'd swear on their one-eyed, hunchback, crippled mother's grave that they were sitting on a plush cushion! |
More likely they are one or more of the following:
1)Fighting addictions to drugs, alcohol,or both
2)Underemployed
3)Untrained
4)Unhappy
5)Just plain clueless
On the other hand, I know a fair number of them pulling down 6 figures, not bad for no college and in some cases, a high school drop-out.......
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08-14-2008, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FinanceDude
More likely they are one or more of the following:
1)Fighting addictions to drugs, alcohol,or both
2)Underemployed
3)Untrained
4)Unhappy
5)Just plain clueless
On the other hand, I know a fair number of them pulling down 6 figures, not bad for no college and in some cases, a high school drop-out....... |
Or the owner of the dealership is off at a 20 group meeting figuring out a way to screw the salespeople out of their money.
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08-14-2008, 01:28 PM
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Or the owner of the dealership is off at a 20 group meeting figuring out a way to screw the salespeople out of their money.
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Yeah, that happens all the time..........  Kinda like the "minimum pack" on used cars of $800-$1000. Even if the car had 1500 miles on it, it got $800-$1000 tacked on, and the salesman NEVER got paid on that.......We used to call it the _________(Insert dealer's name) Trust Fund
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08-14-2008, 01:32 PM
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One of the salespeople I met along the way said it best. Car sales is what you do once you've failed at everything else.
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08-14-2008, 01:59 PM
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You guys keep this up and you'll end up giving car salesmen a bad name... 
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