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07-06-2021, 03:17 PM
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#101
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 9,960
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aja8888
A good friend of mine is a client manager in Wells Fargo's Private Client business (very high net worth individuals). Besides the WF logo on his business card, all he has on his card is his name and phone number. No title needed.
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I think WF sold off this division starting this Fall...
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07-06-2021, 03:24 PM
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 679
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldShooter
Breach of fiduciary duty. Financial abuse of an elder. Depends on the state what laws apply.
But given the recent market the victim may not have been damaged by owning the fund. So what can he claim in civil court?
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Most financial advisors from brokers are not bound by fiduciary duty rule. They earn their living via trading commissions, not the wellbeing of their customers.
https://smartasset.com/financial-adv...ancial-advisor
Fiduciary or not, trust your money to someone other than yourself always runs into a risk when that someone does not have your best interest at heart.
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07-06-2021, 03:25 PM
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#103
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 35,712
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
I can tell you never had a job requiring a security clearance. A CFO in financial straits is a security risk to the company's assets in his care.
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A while back, a close friend of my son asked me to be a reference on his application to be a state trooper. I later got a call from the police department regarding this young man.
The questions were mostly about his character, his temper, his drinking and smoking habits, etc..., which I answered to the extent of my knowledge. This young man and my son hung out quite a bit in their HS years, so I knew something about him.
I remember that the interviewer asked me if he had financial problems, or was into gambling, etc... I could only answer that I would not know, but had seen and heard no indications of that.
By the way, the young man was accepted.
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07-06-2021, 03:36 PM
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#104
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 11,078
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RetiredHappy
All these companies call themselves wealth management companies. It is up to the FA to call themselves whatever they want to call. Mine happens to be the head of the branch and his title does not even reflect what he does other than the position within the firm. People should not get too excited over titles. It is AUM and its related fees, the FA and the results that matter. Our first FA out of CA was probably not as smart as average FIRE group here. Our current FA is one of the smartest people whom we have met.
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All these companies recycle each other's ideas just like they recycle their employees. I'm not talking about the guy at the Jones or Fidelity office but more senior people.
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07-06-2021, 03:38 PM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Sector 001 - Alpha Quadrant
Posts: 237
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This US teaches its young people about history, calculus, physics, even woodworking. For most, not all, those classes will be a waste of time. Not a single class on basic money management is downright shameful IMHO.
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07-06-2021, 03:40 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,579
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MRG
All these companies recycle each other's ideas just like they recycle their employees. I'm not talking about the guy at the Jones or Fidelity office but more senior people.
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I did not find your post in this thread. So what are you talking about?
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07-06-2021, 04:03 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Eastern WV Panhandle
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ncc1701
This US teaches its young people about history, calculus, physics, even woodworking. For most, not all, those classes will be a waste of time. Not a single class on basic money management is downright shameful IMHO.
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Apparently it depends very much on the individual school or maybe even if a teacher who is interested in teaching the subject happens to work there. Several people on the forum in this thread and in others have written over the years about how a HS class in finance was invaluable to them.
And for myself, there were two classes in all of HS that were invaluable to me later in life. One was in typing. The other was in personal finance.
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07-06-2021, 04:31 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 8,968
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Seems like a good time to roll this again. Glad I copied it -
All I needed to know about finance I learned from Pops. He was a man of few words.
1) You can make a million a year but if you spend a million a year you aren't going to have anything, so save some. These savings while small but growing will enable you to buy furniture and appliances without credit.
2) When you've saved enough for a down payment, buy a house. The difference between rent and mortgage is small and the government helps you with interest and you keep building equity. The mortgage should be your only debt.
3) When your savings have recovered from the down payment and the move in expenses, start buying stocks. That's where you'll make the most.
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07-06-2021, 04:36 PM
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gone traveling
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,196
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walt34
Apparently it depends very much on the individual school or maybe even if a teacher who is interested in teaching the subject happens to work there. Several people on the forum in this thread and in others have written over the years about how a HS class in finance was invaluable to them.
And for myself, there were two classes in all of HS that were invaluable to me later in life. One was in typing. The other was in personal finance.
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What I learned in school is effective time mgt. I played sports, went to classes and my day was packed from morning to night that including studying. None of that social media baloney that many are into now.
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07-06-2021, 04:54 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Back then there was just as much baloney, but in different form. For instance, we passed notes! And spent hours on the phone talking of nothing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick12
What I learned in school is effective time mgt. I played sports, went to classes and my day was packed from morning to night that including studying. None of that social media baloney
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07-06-2021, 05:31 PM
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gone traveling
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,196
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amethyst
Back then there was just as much baloney, but in different form. For instance, we passed notes! And spent hours on the phone talking of nothing.
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One rude awakening of personal finance when some were young was when kids talked to kids on the phone that lived in another town - .05 cent a minute...
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07-06-2021, 06:03 PM
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#112
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 8,968
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That would mean that a 2 hour call would cost a whole six cents.
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07-06-2021, 06:05 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,829
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RobbieB
That would mean that a 2 hour call would cost a whole six cents.
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$6.00
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07-06-2021, 06:10 PM
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Moderator
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Location: San Diego
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Quote:
Originally Posted by finnski1
$6.00
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0.05 cents times 120 minutes = 6 cents
If it were 5 cents /minute - it would be $6.
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07-06-2021, 06:12 PM
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gone traveling
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,196
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RobbieB
That would mean that a 2 hour call would cost a whole six cents.
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Typo on my part.
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07-06-2021, 06:13 PM
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#116
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,829
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodi
0.05 cents times 120 minutes = 6 cents
If it were 5 cents /minute - it would be $6.
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Yeah I know but do you really think it was .05 cents per minute or 5 cents per minute. I remember those 5 or 10 cents /minute days.
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07-06-2021, 06:14 PM
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gone traveling
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,196
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ncc1701
This US teaches its young people about history, calculus, physics, even woodworking. For most, not all, those classes will be a waste of time. Not a single class on basic money management is downright shameful IMHO.
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In Coast Guard boot camp training in Cape May, NJ all recruits attend a required personal finance class.
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07-06-2021, 06:18 PM
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#118
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gone traveling
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,196
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Quote:
Originally Posted by finnski1
Yeah I know but do you really think it was .05 cents per minute or 5 cents per minute. I remember those 5 or 10 cents /minute days.
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I heard my parents loud and clear when I was very young calling my friend Tony in the next town over, a 2 min walk to his house from mine and 5 cent a minute to talk. Those phone calls add up very quickly.
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07-06-2021, 07:40 PM
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#119
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gone traveling
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 74
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 427Vette
When my then girlfriend now my wife and I were juniors in HS we signed up
For an elective class called “consumer education and personal finance”. I have no idea why this wasn’t a required class from junior high through high school. We learned about investing, compounding interest, banking, insurance etc. I got more out of that one semester class than 4 years of other subjects combined. When HS graduation day came I searched out that teacher and thanked him for teaching this class. A few years later when I was just starting my business he hired me to do a bunch of work for him. I like to think that class helped seal the deal and convince my girlfriend to marry me!
I still remember a quote that teacher said. He said “rich people stay rich by living like they are broke. Broke people stay broke by living like they are rich”.
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The Millionaire Next Door should be required high school reading.
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07-06-2021, 08:54 PM
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#120
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 11,078
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RetiredHappy
I did not find your post in this thread. So what are you talking about?
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Your comment about they all called themselves wealth management. The folks doing the branding share idea's and jobs.
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