Yes, other than the fact that the later retiree will have to assume a shorter withdrawal period, to match the earlier retiree's remaining years.
Again, step back and look at the reasoning.
If Bob has $300k in long term treasuries and $400k in the S&P 500 index, and Joe has exactly the same thing at the same time, and both do exactly the same things with these funds, then there is no way that their future results can differ. It doesn't matter that one of them used to have a lot more money, and the other is perhaps starting from a lump sum payout of a retirement plan -- the future results have to be the same for them.
This seems even more counter-intuitive than the original example, but I see, after looking at the historical numbers, the reason this seemingly anomalous situation works is that historically, we haven't
had extended bear markets that exceeded 5 years, and very few that exceeded even 2 years. So the fact that the first guy was unlucky enough to retire into a serious long term bear market means that it is behind him -- and if so, then it is behind the other guy as well -- he just didn't have to deal with it.
Since 1871, we have only had two 5-year periods when each year-end stock market value was lower than the previous year-end, and that was back in the pre-depression days. (This is adjusted for inflation -- there was only one such period when I ignore inflation). There were only three periods with consecutive 4 year downturns, and only five 3 year downturns.
Had this not been the case, then we would be talking about the 2% rule, or maybe the 1% rule I suspect.
So... the best time to retire is after a bunch of crappy years. If history is any guide, it will only get better.
dory36
(Can you see people watching the market, waiting to retire, saying "Oh crap -
another good year -- now I have to postpone my retirement
again!")
PS - if you want to look at numbers, see the original source data for
Irrational Exuberance and for a good part of what Firecalc and the REHP spreadsheets use, at
http://www.econ.yale.edu/~shiller/data/ie_data.htm. I used the start-of-year figures for the above.