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Old 03-03-2023, 07:34 AM   #21
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LOL - attract new customers but screw exiting customers?
Yep, in a nutshell. Loyalty does not pay in insurance.
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Old 03-03-2023, 07:43 AM   #22
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Just got our State Farm bill for both cars this month.

Combined, they went down about 5%.
Interesting. We had State Farm for about 10 years back in the 90's. My buddy turned me onto USAA. When I went to cancel my State Farm, my agent said they couldn't touch USAA. But, that was 20+ years ago. I may have to look into this more.
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Old 03-03-2023, 07:55 AM   #23
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my agent said they couldn't touch USAA. But, that was 20+ years ago. I may have to look into this more.
I check into it every few years, but I have always been given the same response. There are occasional reports here that someone has been able to do better elsewhere, but I've never found it so.
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Old 03-03-2023, 09:02 AM   #24
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My BIL recently told me his FILs advice on insurance was to get with State Farm and never leave.

In retrospect, BIL realizes that was not good advice.
I've had State Farm forever and have been fairly pleased.

I've shopped around over the years including using an independent agent a couple of years ago. Overall, nobody has been close to saving me money on the entire bill (2 cars, homeowners, umbrella). Some places save money on the cars (Geico, Progressive) but are way higher on homeowners. And some, the other way around.

I'll keep searching though.
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Old 03-03-2023, 09:52 AM   #25
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I've had State Farm forever and have been fairly pleased.

I've shopped around over the years including using an independent agent a couple of years ago. Overall, nobody has been close to saving me money on the entire bill (2 cars, homeowners, umbrella). Some places save money on the cars (Geico, Progressive) but are way higher on homeowners. And some, the other way around.

I'll keep searching though.
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Old 03-03-2023, 11:51 AM   #26
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My independent broker, who i trust a lot, found a little better price recently but recommended i stay where i was. He said a new company is more likely to drop you for a claim where you current one of 5 years would not. He said it’s worth a few $ to buy some insurance company loyalty.
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Old 03-03-2023, 12:06 PM   #27
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Correct.

But even better to get an independent agent who will shop all of your insurance-annually if you desire.

That will save a ton of time and you keep the relationship with your agent even if you switch your insurance carrier.
Yes I do use a broker for the last year for all 3 insurances.
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Old 03-03-2023, 12:37 PM   #28
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I have heard from numerous brokers that rates will be going up significantly on auto insurance.

Read the following on State Farms' losses for 2021 and 2022, they are staggering, especially for their auto units: https://www.insurancejournal.com/new.../01/709886.htm

They will have to compensate somehow, and raising prices is an easy way...

They won't raise prices across the board, this is (was) also a case of taking on less than desirable business to maintain market share. SF is desperately trying to hold on to the title of largest auto insurer they have held since 1944. GEICO has been nipping at their heel for the last 20 years. But with UW losses this large, they will shed a lot of policies going forward.
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Old 03-03-2023, 02:02 PM   #29
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Mine went up 25% for this next 6 month period , after another ~25% increase. No accidents/tickets.
I checked online with another insurance company and they were more expensive
I hear all these people that say shop around every year. BS........rates are going up everywhere!

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Old 03-03-2023, 03:39 PM   #30
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I hear all these people that say shop around every year. BS........rates are going up everywhere!



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Usually everyone does not raise the same for a variety of reasons. Even if everyone raises it makes sense to find the best deal.
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Old 03-04-2023, 02:03 PM   #31
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I self insure my car with Hartford.

Pay around $350/yr.
Will cost more when I get a EV one day.
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Just got my renewal notice this week. Full coverage for two vehicles went up about 10%.
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I shop all my insurance every 2-3 years.
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I self insure my car with Hartford.

Pay around $350/yr.
Will cost more when I get a EV one day.
How does self-insuring with Hartford work?
Is it that Hartford handles all the paperwork, legal etc, but you are responsible for financial payouts? If so, then $350/yr may not be that bad.
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Old 03-05-2023, 08:12 AM   #35
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I self insure my car with Hartford.

Pay around $350/yr.
Will cost more when I get a EV one day.
I would hate to get into a multi injury accident. It could bankrupt you.
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Old 03-05-2023, 08:47 AM   #36
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LOL - attract new customers but screw exiting customers?
Consumer Reports had an article in the last year or so where they reported which insurance companies are the ones that penalize loyalty. One take away was that not all companies use that kind of pricing methodology.
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Lower price for new customers, yep, that is normal marketing in every industry not sure why we would expect it different here. I can get a free phone if I switch to AT&T, but have to wait forever if I am an existing customer......I can get 3 months free if I start a new streaming subscription, but nope, they don't give that to all their customers every year, I get a $10 gift card if I switch to a new electricity provider, but they don't send me one every year after that................
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I would hate to get into a multi injury accident. It could bankrupt you.

I have liability/umbrella for that.
Self insure my car.
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How does self-insuring with Hartford work?
Is it that Hartford handles all the paperwork, legal etc, but you are responsible for financial payouts? If so, then $350/yr may not be that bad.

Liability with umbrella.
I'm responsible for the car.

Drove car about 300 miles or less since retiring June 2020.
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I have liability/umbrella for that.
Self insure my car.
Oh, it was phrased in an unusual way. You just don’t carry collision insurance. You don’t really self insure like some on here do for their homes.
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