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Old 01-28-2020, 08:06 PM   #61
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I don't really want to talk about this kind of thing so soon but this is a finacially related forum so I think it's appropriate. Are the families of the other casualties likely to file a civil case against Kobe's estate for negligence. The helicopter that Kobe owned did not have a black box or terrain warning devices. Kobe's wife could lose 10's of millions if this goes to court. Thoughts?
It was a rented helicopter, piloted by a licensed pilot employed by the aircraft owner. The pilot apparently asked to use visual flying rules although visibility was poor. That may have contributed to the crash, but the NTSB will have the final say on the cause.
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I don't really want to talk about this kind of thing so soon but this is a finacially related forum so I think it's appropriate. Are the families of the other casualties likely to file a civil case against Kobe's estate for negligence. The helicopter that Kobe owned did not have a black box or terrain warning devices. Kobe's wife could lose 10's of millions if this goes to court. Thoughts?

This will absolutely happen. Wrongful death suits are quite common with stuff like this and given the tremendous wealth of Kobe Bryant I'd be shocked if lawyers arent talking to the other families surviving members very shortly.
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I heard a pilot say that the pilot should have used instruments only to fly in those conditions. He said flying visually is unwise because you can get easily confused. I also read that the helicopter was huge and usually had 2 pilots. I would think that the survivors would need to sue the company that supplied the pilot and helicopter.
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I heard a pilot say that the pilot should have used instruments only to fly in those conditions. He said flying visually is unwise because you can get easily confused. I also read that the helicopter was huge and usually had 2 pilots. I would think that the survivors would need to sue the company that supplied the pilot and helicopter.
Helicopters rarely fly using instruments and those that do including this one requires 2 pilots when they do.
The company is not worth as much as Kobe.
And don’t be surprised if they sue the manufacturer.

There was a case where the family sued the engine manufacturer, when NTSB said engine was fine, it was pilot error (similarly the pilot flew into a mountain). Why, because the engine manufacturer has money.
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Equating OJ's aquittal with KB's case-dismissal is complete false equivalency. Doing so, today, so quickly, is gross.

KB's case was dismissed before it went to court as the witness refused to testify. She pursued a civil case which was settled.
I live in Colorado and the reporting was extensive. The victim was hounded mercilessly.

His t-shirt had her blood on it. Her neck had bruises. The sexual assault nurse examiner found lacerations in her vagina. She was in his room all of five minutes.

Bryant's statement read in court after the victim agreed not to testify included, "Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did. After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter."

He was a tremendous athlete, a generous person, and a good father. I'd also call him a rapist.
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The truth is only Kobe and the accuser know what happened that night. What you are implying is one of the possibilities. It is just as likely that the two of them had consensual sex then she tried to get some money. DNA evidence proved she had sex with someone else within 15 hours after she was with Kobe. Not something that a rape victim would be likely to do. On advice from legal counsel she asked the prosecution to drop the criminal case. She later filed a civil case which was settled out of court which happens all the time whether the accused is guilt or not. What is not debateable is the substantial good Kobe did for his community in the last 15 years of his life.


Well said. Celebrities are always targets and it’s not always clear that the accusers are telling the truth. There’s much money to be made in this country from mere accusations.
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Pot, yes the physical evidence was overwhelming. But she got death threats which is why she didn’t pursue it.
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