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DW and her brother inherited her dad's house the end of last year. For some strange reason (probably because they're due to have the sale closing in one month), when I woke up this morning, I decided to start digging into the house sale tax consequences.
I dug a bit on this board and found some nuggets:
In NC, the kids own the house on the date of death (Nov 2019), no probate. Although one might have hired an appraiser back then, that wasn't done. A few agents were called in January and a general idea was established for what the house might have sold for "as-is", but no formal list of comps or anything. So the November fair market value (nFMV) as of about 10 months ago is rather mushy. I read that one could use a FMV 6 months later, but in those stages of the pandemic, I'm not sure what the housing market in the area was doing then, and besides, that era has come and gone anyway.
The decision was made (not by me) to do some fixing up. So the owners put in some money, about 5% of that nFMV. So now the basis is 1.05 * nFMV. The contract for sale has the owners netting almost exactly nFMV (1.00), so since they didn't live in the house, it seems that they can claim a long term capital loss equal to (1.00 - 1.05) * nFMV, or five percent of the November fair market value.
I'll offer a simplified case: Let's say that the housing market didn't go up or down in the span between inheritance and sale. And the house wasn't lived in, and nothing was spent to fix it up. When the house sold, they'd have a capital loss of 6%, just because that's what the commissions expense would be. That mental exercise is just to say that when selling an inherited property, it would seem logical and common for those inheriting the property to show a capital loss on the order of selling expenses.
In thing like this, I know some people like to have a pat answer, fully documented, ready to be handed over to the IRS, should they ask. But that's a lot of work that might not be required. I'm more the kind of person who postpones the formal report until they ask for it. If they do ask, I'd say "I think I did all that stuff right, and within the spirit of the rules. What paperwork do you want me to scrape together now that you're asking?" If I do a bad job gathering the report they ask for, maybe I pay a few bucks more. I guess there are "accuracy penalties" that I'd like to avoid paying, if possible, but the fair market value of a house like this one (not a lot of really comparables, and not many transactions), it's too much of a pain to put too fine a point on it.
It seems like the sales price 10 months later is the best indicator of the true market value, so it's almost seems like I should be able to multiply that by 0.06 (sales expenses) and take that as my long term capital loss, which is "a simple approach to selling an inherited house"
I dug a bit on this board and found some nuggets:
TT also confirms that a loss can be claimed:
https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/2...d-from-the-sale-of-inherited-property-taxable
So that's another thing I stand corrected on today. Something else that stood out to me in this article:
For the date acquired, enter “Inherited.” This makes sure you receive long-term capital gain or loss treatment.
So you not only get step-up basis on inherited property, but you also get LTCG (or loss) treatment. I did not realize that. I assumed with the step-up basis, the "purchase date" would be the date you inherited it. I confirmed with a couple other sources that it is immediately treated as LT.
Inherited property is treated like investment property (i.e. you can claim the loss) unless you live in/on it. If you lived there, then it's personal property and you can't deduct the loss.
Many times a loss can be taken when you factor in the expenses of selling the property!
In NC, the kids own the house on the date of death (Nov 2019), no probate. Although one might have hired an appraiser back then, that wasn't done. A few agents were called in January and a general idea was established for what the house might have sold for "as-is", but no formal list of comps or anything. So the November fair market value (nFMV) as of about 10 months ago is rather mushy. I read that one could use a FMV 6 months later, but in those stages of the pandemic, I'm not sure what the housing market in the area was doing then, and besides, that era has come and gone anyway.
The decision was made (not by me) to do some fixing up. So the owners put in some money, about 5% of that nFMV. So now the basis is 1.05 * nFMV. The contract for sale has the owners netting almost exactly nFMV (1.00), so since they didn't live in the house, it seems that they can claim a long term capital loss equal to (1.00 - 1.05) * nFMV, or five percent of the November fair market value.
I'll offer a simplified case: Let's say that the housing market didn't go up or down in the span between inheritance and sale. And the house wasn't lived in, and nothing was spent to fix it up. When the house sold, they'd have a capital loss of 6%, just because that's what the commissions expense would be. That mental exercise is just to say that when selling an inherited property, it would seem logical and common for those inheriting the property to show a capital loss on the order of selling expenses.
In thing like this, I know some people like to have a pat answer, fully documented, ready to be handed over to the IRS, should they ask. But that's a lot of work that might not be required. I'm more the kind of person who postpones the formal report until they ask for it. If they do ask, I'd say "I think I did all that stuff right, and within the spirit of the rules. What paperwork do you want me to scrape together now that you're asking?" If I do a bad job gathering the report they ask for, maybe I pay a few bucks more. I guess there are "accuracy penalties" that I'd like to avoid paying, if possible, but the fair market value of a house like this one (not a lot of really comparables, and not many transactions), it's too much of a pain to put too fine a point on it.
It seems like the sales price 10 months later is the best indicator of the true market value, so it's almost seems like I should be able to multiply that by 0.06 (sales expenses) and take that as my long term capital loss, which is "a simple approach to selling an inherited house"