Social Security (revisited)

[ivinsfan]

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Originally Posted by Exchme Maybe the OP can realize that from a government program standpoint, the government can't be in the middle of determining the cause of a divorce. The government does not want, say, a loyal homemaker to end up destitute by being married to a rat that treats them badly and dumps them, so the law is set up as "no-fault". Here, perhaps the benefits were in some sense undeserved, but it was the American taxpayers as a whole that bore the burden, not the OP. Since she is now gone, maybe time to let the bitterness go and joy life.

People are losing sight of the fact that one person only gets one benefit. It's not like anyone is double dipping and collecting two. The spousal benefit goes way back to the day when many, many woman were at home spouses and Moms. This was put in for the protection of that group. When protecting a group, perhaps some unintended results will occur. This doesn't mean that we don't protect them. A sour grapes poster doesn't determine national policy.

[Perryinva]

Wow, y’all need to get a life. Thanks for the insightfully obvious post. I am way past holding any remorse or grudge. She’s dead. But facts are facts. Time doesn’t change them. Do you tell blacks who are offended, that statues to Confederate Generals were put up a 150 years ago, so just get over it?

As I CLEARLY stated, this was a consideration on a cosmic not a legal level. I also said, for reasons not relevant to this thread, but you had to bring up points not relevant. I am fully aware it didn’t affect my SS amounts, but perhaps your reading comprehension is weak, where I also pointed out that she & her lawyer cost me many thousands that I did not have, by using delay tactics to ensure she was legally married for 10 years and one month. We should have been (and we were childless) divorced at 8 years. I got to go to work every day & support her in a hostile environment for 2 years while she stayed at home and watched soap operas and ate herself to an XXXL. So keep your holier than thou BS to yourself. You weren’t there. And fair is fair regardless of when it happened. There is no reasonable explanation for a childless woman divorced at 34 with a college education (and post college training paid for by me) to be entitled to a benefit that further burdens the SSA coffers based on my record after we were divorced because she didn’t feel like working. IMHO, of course. While married, I am fine with that. And I should also point out that the law used to be married for 20 years, not 10, which more clearly supports the divorced woman’s predicament.

[RunningBum]

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Originally Posted by Perryinva As I CLEARLY stated, this was a consideration on a cosmic not a legal level. I also said, for reasons not relevant to this thread, but you had to bring up points not relevant. I am fully aware it didn’t affect my SS amounts, but perhaps your reading comprehension is weak,

Nothing wrong with my reading comprehension, your writing was CLEARLY the issue:

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Originally Posted by Perryinva One of the reasons I planned on waiting until age 70, was so that my EX could not file for 50% of mine until I filed. ... turns out she did me a solid and never filed for it so the entire amount reverted back to me, which I wasn’t expecting.

I'm done here.

[Chuckanut]

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Originally Posted by ivinsfan Good for you, can you answer the question about collecting as a divorced spouse. Was your ex drawing SS when you claimed a spousal or were you able to file without her claiming her SS? Enjoy those grandkids!!

No, she was not collecting SS benefits. IIRC, I had to wait until I was Full Retirement Age to collect on her account.

Make sure you have your ex's SS number, marriage certificate and divorce decree ahead of time.

[Perryinva]

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Originally Posted by RunningBum Nothing wrong with my reading comprehension, your writing was CLEARLY the issue: I'm done here.

Now I do wonder, since I cannot see how you thought that post referred to you....

Jeez.

Also, I was incorrect in what I wrote about waiting to file until 70 to prevent an ex from filing for spousal. As long as I turn 62, and the ex is 62 or over, then they are entitled to the larger of their own or their own plus the difference of 50% of the amount I would be entitled to at my age when she filed. I remember now, since I hadn’t given it or her much thought in years, but it was the opposite; I was hesitant to delay filing to 70, because if I were to die first, both current and ex spouse are entitled to the same much larger amount. All moot now. End of rant.