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04-12-2020, 05:50 PM
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#81
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 257
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Originally Posted by Redbugdave
There will be a lot of scams with this free handout.
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oh yes...
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04-13-2020, 06:06 AM
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#82
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: dubuque
Posts: 1,174
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do you think the stimulus checks will be taxable? just want to know what people think?
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04-13-2020, 06:09 AM
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#83
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Voorheesville, NY
Posts: 206
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Originally Posted by frank
do you think the stimulus checks will be taxable? just want to know what people think?
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They shouldn't be since they are an advance on next year's refund, if I understand correctly.
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04-13-2020, 06:13 AM
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#84
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Texas: No Country for Old Men
Posts: 50,021
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Originally Posted by frank
do you think the stimulus checks will be taxable?
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No.
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Will the Money I Get Now Be Taxed Later?
No. As we mentioned earlier, the check you receive is really just an advanced payment of a tax credit for the 2020 tax year. As such, it won't be included in your taxable income.
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https://www.kiplinger.com/article/sp...ther-faqs.html
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04-13-2020, 07:01 AM
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#86
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,350
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My $1200 is listed as pending and will be in my account on the 15th.
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04-13-2020, 08:15 AM
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#87
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 47,500
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Originally Posted by aaronc879
My $1200 is listed as pending and will be in my account on the 15th.
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Wonderful! I am so happy for you.
Mine is still not listed, even as pending, so I'll just have to be patient for a while longer.
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04-13-2020, 09:06 AM
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#88
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,610
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Originally Posted by W2R
Wonderful! I am so happy for you.
Mine is still not listed, even as pending, so I'll just have to be patient for a while longer.
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When you say "listed," where exactly is the checks status listed. TIA
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04-13-2020, 09:17 AM
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#89
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,350
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Your bank account. Mine is listed as pending with a deposit date of the 15th. So it's "listed" in your bank account transactions. Maybe not all banks/credit unions do that but my CU does.
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04-13-2020, 09:27 AM
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#90
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,610
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronc879
Your bank account. Mine is listed as pending with a deposit date of the 15th. So it's "listed" in your bank account transactions. Maybe not all banks/credit unions do that but my CU does.
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Ah the bank. Never seen a pending anything. Guess I don't have the delux account..sigh
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04-13-2020, 10:23 AM
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#91
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: northern Michigan
Posts: 2,215
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronc879
My $1200 is listed as pending and will be in my account on the 15th.
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Mine is shown as pending also in my CU checking account. Should be posted either later today or tomorrow, I would guess.
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04-13-2020, 11:05 AM
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#92
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: May 2008
Location: No fixed abode
Posts: 8,765
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iloveyoga
I thought there was some kind of true up process that looked at your 2019 tax return also?
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Originally Posted by harley
Hadn't seen that. I'll have to check it out. Thanks.
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So, I did check it out. I know this isn't totally authoritative, but in this article from Kiplingers, it says that they haven't decided whether to "true it up" from your 2019 taxes.
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There's an opportunity to manipulate the amount of your stimulus check if you haven't already filed your 2019 return.
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If you get a higher amount using your 2018 return, wait to file. If the amount is better using 2019 numbers, then file as soon as you can
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Let's say you wait to file your 2019 return because your stimulus check will be $100 more if the IRS bases your payment on your 2018 return. Will you get to keep that additional $100?
That's still an open question. The way the law is written, the checks that will be sent now are actually just advanced payments of a new refundable tax credit for the 2020 tax year. We don't know yet how the IRS will treat stimulus payments that are more than the 2020 tax credit amount.
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If we had to guess, we don't think the IRS will require a payback. Nevertheless, we'll keep an eye out for IRS guidance addressing this situation, so check back later.
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Sorry for all the chunks of quotes, just trying to winnow down the wordiness.
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04-13-2020, 11:28 AM
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#93
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Boise
Posts: 7,882
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Whomever wrote the article for Kiplinger's needs better reading comprehension (or CPA friends with reading comprehension).
The text of the law is quite clear that stimulus payments that are larger than the 2020 credit amount will not have to be repaid. The wording is something along the lines of: "Your 2020 credit will be reduced by your stimulus payment, but not below zero."
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04-13-2020, 01:25 PM
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#94
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Undisclosed
Posts: 1,239
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My credit union is showing the stimulus amount is pending. Looks like I can start adding a much larger tip on our carry-out orders.
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Just wanted to make sure I would get a stimulus check
04-13-2020, 01:57 PM
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#95
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Confused about dryer sheets
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 7
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Just wanted to make sure I would get a stimulus check
I am not collecting SS and just have dividend income. I do file, but I owe nothing and get nothing from the federal government, just always have to pay state. I would still be entitled to a check, correct?
Thanks
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04-13-2020, 01:58 PM
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#96
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Orlando
Posts: 84
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Logged onto my CU account this morning to pay some bills, and discovered $2400 of stimulus deposited to my account by IRS. Now, DW and I are trying to decide how to distribute it to those who need more than us.
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04-13-2020, 02:03 PM
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#97
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Boise
Posts: 7,882
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joecan5785
I am not collecting SS and just have dividend income. I do file, but I owe nothing and get nothing from the federal government, just always have to pay state. I would still be entitled to a check, correct?
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Almost certainly. The main requirements are (1) have an SSN, (2) have an AGI under $75K single, and (3) not be eligible to be claimed as a dependent on someone else's return.
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04-13-2020, 03:09 PM
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#98
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Colorado Mountains
Posts: 3,165
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I just got mine! I'm sooo excited! I think I will take the entire extended family out to dinner!
Oh, wait. Never mind on the dinner.
It was direct deposited into the same account that gets my SS check and my tax refund check.
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04-13-2020, 03:13 PM
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#99
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Colorado Mountains
Posts: 3,165
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SecondCor521
Whomever wrote the article for Kiplinger's needs better reading comprehension (or CPA friends with reading comprehension).
The text of the law is quite clear that stimulus payments that are larger than the 2020 credit amount will not have to be repaid. The wording is something along the lines of: "Your 2020 credit will be reduced by your stimulus payment, but not below zero."
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What?? You mean this is NOT free money??
BTW, what is a "credit amount?"
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04-13-2020, 03:36 PM
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#100
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Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 23,037
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit
What?? You mean this is NOT free money??
BTW, what is a "credit amount?"
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The amounts currently being sent out are advance payments of a tax credit to be applied to your 2020 tax obligation. The amount you get now is determined by either your 2018 or 2019 AGI, but the ultimate amount of your credit will be determined by your 2020 AGI. Consider the two extreme cases: 1) you had greater than $198,000 AGI in 2019 (MFJ), so you get nothing now, but you have less than $150,000 AGI in 2020, so you get a $2400 tax credit when you file next year; and 2) You had less than $150,000 AGI in 2019, so you get $2400 now, but you have greater than $198,000 AGI in 2020, so you are ineligible for any tax credit when you file next year. In case 2, you do not need to pay it back.
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