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Old 09-25-2017, 05:13 PM   #141
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The original planks that were used on my deck were 16' long. I do not think you can get anything longer than that. The largest dimension of my nearly 1000-sq.ft. odd-shaped deck is 55'. The composite Trex boards I bought and installed were also 16'. Trex makes 20' planks, but I did not buy them because they were unwieldy for me to handle.

The original boards were not cedar, nor redwood. If they were, I am sure that they would hold up better.

PS. Here's a point of reference. When you look at the photos that I posted in the mentioned thread, each of the railing sections is 8' long.
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I'm getting my little 16 x 20 footer replaced this year. Going to be solid redwood and screwed (not nailed) so those annoying pop ups will not occur. Old 30 yr planks finally started to rot and sag. Not bad life out of Doug Fir.
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No, definitely no nails. Who does that anymore nowadays? The guys who built my original deck used screws, good ones that do not rust after 12 years. They are not galvanized, but a kind of steel that does not rust. I removed and saved them, though I do not know what to use them for yet. Got about 2/3 of a 5-gallon pail filled with these screws.

For my new Trex deck, I used their clips which leave the top of the planks unmarred by any screw holes. Love the clean look. Even better, I can remove the boards and reinstall/reposition them if necessary.

To tie in with the thread topic of net worth, as I am typing this my wife is watching an episode of a TV show where they show a deck being built that costs $400K. The episode before that, they show a $300K deck.

What kind of net worth does one need to spend that much on a deck?
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Those are a lot bigger than mine I imagine. Yours is 3X the size of mine.

Hehe, I've been whacking those nails down now for years and they always pop back up. The nails rust thinner and the holes rot bigger. Still like wood though, my parents got the composite (MI snow) and I never liked it.
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We built our own deck on the house on the river we sold last year. It was an aircraft carrier of a deck, 50 feet long, 12 to 16 feet wide with 6x6 pressure treated posts set into steel anchors and 18" diameter 36" deep concrete footings. Insanely overbuilt but since we did all the work ourselves I think we had under $10,000 in it. We used 2x6 cedar for the decking. It held up pretty well but was weathered a bit when we sold it. Still solid and all, just needed sanding and staining.

We overbuild everything though. This RV I am typing in right now will probably still be here when man has left the planet for the stars.
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That's what I'm thinking. If the new deck lasts another 30 years odds are it will out live me.
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Still has the TV tuned to that series called Megadecks on DYI cable channel. It's anything but DYi, hah! They now show a $550k deck being built. Only 1,800-sq.ft., but it's got fancy amenities, and on a difficult to build site. The glass panels for the enclosed section cost $95k already.

Much higher NW than mine obviously. About 20X more.
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Those are a lot bigger than mine I imagine. Yours is 3X the size of mine.
Your 16x20 footer sounds huge. It is about 4X the size of my little concrete patio. I don't have a deck but the patio is big enough and all that I desire.
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Since the discussion has veered to decks, perhaps someone can clear this up for me.

I can understand building a deck if one is constructing something adjacent to their house and the access point (doorwall/sliders/door) is somewhere "way up in the air" and/or the deck is being built over a drop-off/slope.

I'm trying to understand a preference for building a deck at basically ground-level....or a foot or so above...on a level lot.

It seems as though decks have a lot of maintenance and upkeep over time, and if one has a level lot, why not instead build a concrete or cement paver patio that is a step or two down from the access point to the house, but requires little or no maintenance?

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Even though our river front lot was level, it had water issues at certain times of year. A ground level deck possibly would have been a bad idea.
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........ a deck, 50 feet long, 12 to 16 feet wide with 6x6 pressure treated posts set into steel anchors and 18" diameter 36" deep concrete footings........
If my deck was that big it would be in the neighbors yard
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In many threads, people talk about their cars. Why not talk about decks for a bit of variety? And there's more than just sizes. There are length, width, odd shapes, colors and textures, etc... OK, you've got the idea.

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...the access point (doorwall/sliders/door) is somewhere "way up in the air" and/or the deck is being built over a drop-off/slope...
This. In my case, the rear deck was what made me fall in love at first sight when I saw it in the final stage of being built as a spec home. The lot extended down a hill slope, and from the vantage point of the deck I could look down to the highway running along the valley floor, and the homes on the other side of the valley and the national forest surrounding the area.

The price was significantly higher than what I originally intended to spend, but I told my wife a lot like this did not come on the market often. There were some lots like this on the other side of the valley, but the price was even higher.

The home also has a smaller front deck of 25'x15'. It is covered, and serves as a front porch.
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Since the discussion has veered to decks, perhaps someone can clear this up for me.

I can understand building a deck if one is constructing something adjacent to their house and the access point (doorwall/sliders/door) is somewhere "way up in the air" and/or the deck is being built over a drop-off/slope.

I'm trying to understand a preference for building a deck at basically ground-level....or a foot or so above...on a level lot.

It seems as though decks have a lot of maintenance and upkeep over time, and if one has a level lot, why not instead build a concrete or cement paver patio that is a step or two down from the access point to the house, but requires little or no maintenance?
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my next home will be one level and have a concrete/stone/etc. patio, NOT a wood deck.

btw, wood decks get plenty hot in the sun as well...
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I noticed something about Trex for outdoor use. My workplace installed some nice paver courtyards with Trex benches and picnic tables. Plain, but very nice looking and decent quality. After about 5 years, the seats obviously show no sign of rot or cracking the way wood does; but they are covered with a million tiny pits, like acne scars,and these pits collect dirt and algae, so the overall effect is dirty. I don't know what would cause this - acid rain maybe? or how it could have been prevented. If it were my deck I would probably do the same as I do for wood: power wash yearly, followed by painting.
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In researching deck materials, I found that Trex faced a class action lawsuit in the past. Supposedly, the new planks are better. To be sure, I bought their top grade as it was supposed to be more durable. I also liked the look better.

Time will tell if their claim holds up. If not, I will have to launch a board or two through their headquarter glass windows.
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The members list under Community shows 27604 records at the moment so at 2.9M a pop the er.org mailing list would represent 80B USD of net worth. OTOH if Bill Gates happens to be a member, then the rest of us are no different than the typical US household.
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