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Another contrived example. Mr and Mrs Contrived have 90k-95k of income(AGI). A (not insignificant) portion of it is LTCG. The Contriveds have a theoretical portfolio that includes some stock that is 99.99% capital gains and they have some tax deferred IRAs. For the sake of this example, the stock and the IRA are of roughly equal value. Their family is not contrived at all. It has its share of dysfunction like all families do. After one particulate stressful Thanksgiving, the Contriveds decide that they need a vacation. They need to hit their portfolio to get 10k for a week in Las Vegas.
Surely the first thing they would do would (in this utterly contrived example) be to consult their tax man. He would recommend a stock sale over and IRA. The stock sale would require a sale of (10k/.85) ~11.8k of stock. A IRA distribution might require (10k/.7) ~14.3k to fund the same vacation.
If they then asked their FA the same question, the answer may be different. The FA may, for example, recommend using IRA funds for liquidity reasons or for future RMD considerations.
But the point is that ,all else being equal, if they sold 10k of stock and blew it all they you owe the tax man 1.5k more when the returned and in the IRA case they would owe 3k.
This is a contrived example. The Contriveds do not exist and this whole example was made up. Were they silly for planning the Vegas trip? Possibly. Were they equally silly for consulting their tax man first? Another possibility. Would we question the Contriveds judgment for trying to minimize their taxes while funding a total money pit? Definitely. We appreciate them letting us look into some of the details of their fictional lives in order to demonstrate a point about our overly complicated tax code.
Surely the first thing they would do would (in this utterly contrived example) be to consult their tax man. He would recommend a stock sale over and IRA. The stock sale would require a sale of (10k/.85) ~11.8k of stock. A IRA distribution might require (10k/.7) ~14.3k to fund the same vacation.
If they then asked their FA the same question, the answer may be different. The FA may, for example, recommend using IRA funds for liquidity reasons or for future RMD considerations.
But the point is that ,all else being equal, if they sold 10k of stock and blew it all they you owe the tax man 1.5k more when the returned and in the IRA case they would owe 3k.
This is a contrived example. The Contriveds do not exist and this whole example was made up. Were they silly for planning the Vegas trip? Possibly. Were they equally silly for consulting their tax man first? Another possibility. Would we question the Contriveds judgment for trying to minimize their taxes while funding a total money pit? Definitely. We appreciate them letting us look into some of the details of their fictional lives in order to demonstrate a point about our overly complicated tax code.