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01-15-2014, 11:17 AM
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The Wealthometer
Want to see how you stack up?
In the first screen it asks you to guess what percentile you're in, in the next it calculates it.
I admit the information isn't particularly useful, but it's entertaining nevertheless.
Wealthometer: USA
(US based)
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01-15-2014, 11:27 AM
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In my opinion it is not very useful at all, since there is nothing about your age. A persons position in the wealth chart naturally changes with age. I know right after College mine was close to zero. So they are comparing me now with a current copy of my young self? What is the point? It is from a department of Harvard University. I think they could have done better.
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01-15-2014, 11:32 AM
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The real point of the website is to generate debate on taxing wealth, ie net worth. Probably a research project going on.
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01-15-2014, 11:38 AM
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Yea, pretty bad IMO.... not worth taking your time to do it...
Also, it divided the number by household members... which is not happening here...
ALSO, you cannot put down an estimate of zero taxes on wealth.... which is what I would have done...
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01-15-2014, 11:43 AM
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Still, try to enter your NW in to see. I think many retirees here would be within the top 2 or 3%. Then, if you are a couple, try entering in 1 instead of 2 for household number to see the effect of doubling individual NW.
The top 1% starts at $2.75M per individual, but I think that the top 0.1% may start at the $20M. It would be interesting to see that top 1% broken down further in to 0.1% steps or smaller.
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01-15-2014, 11:44 AM
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No need to answer the last question. Anyway, I can save them time on their research project - generally speaking, those with decent amounts of wealth oppose taxing wealth, those with little or none will be net supporters.
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01-15-2014, 11:45 AM
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I kept household at 1. I didn't want to see how my 4 year old stacked up with 1/3 of my wealth.
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01-15-2014, 11:48 AM
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They have meters for Germany, Italy, and Austria too
wealthometer.org
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01-15-2014, 11:55 AM
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I wonder how accurate it is? I ended up placing in the top 4%, as a household of 1. In plugging various numbers in, it looks like $1,161,447 in NW is the bottom threshold to break into the top 3%. Even to break into the fabled top 1%, you only need to amass $2,734,475.
Does it really take that little to get into the top tiers? Almost seems too easy.
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01-15-2014, 11:57 AM
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I was under the impression that the 1% threshold was more like $5MM.
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01-15-2014, 12:06 PM
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So if you are on a substantial DB pension, do you assume that as an equivalent SP annuity cost?
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01-15-2014, 12:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre1969
Even to break into the fabled top 1%, you only need to amass $2,734,475.
Does it really take that little to get into the top tiers? Almost seems too easy.
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Too easy? Tell that to the bottom 99%, no the bottom 50% (NW < $24K).
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01-15-2014, 12:18 PM
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I ended up at 97 for a household of 1. My guess was 84 and would have equated to about $206K of assets. Don't think it says much other than that we (not most of us on this site) aren't very good at saving and building wealth. The curve becomes very steep at the high end. A tax on what we have already saved and paid taxes on would be a difficult thing to accept.
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01-15-2014, 12:26 PM
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wealthometer.org hasn't been rated as OK by McAfee yet. I think I'll wait before I attach a wealth figure to my web address.
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01-15-2014, 12:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit
wealthometer.org hasn't been rated as OK by McAfee yet. I think I'll wait before I attach a wealth figure to my web address.
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Neither has the bank my 401k is at. I trust the bank more than McAfee. YMMV.
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01-15-2014, 01:02 PM
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DW and I are comfortable. No, I do not enter numbers into these kinds of gizmos.
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01-15-2014, 01:02 PM
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I guess it just seems too "easy", because I was able to do it. And I don't consider myself anything all that special.
Just out of curiosity, I plugged in my statistics from this time in 1996, when my marriage was falling apart, bills were mounting, and I had very little equity in the condo. That would put me in the bottom 3%.
So I guess if was able to zoom from the bottom 3% to the top 4% in just 18 years, it just seemed too easy.
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01-15-2014, 01:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit
wealthometer.org hasn't been rated as OK by McAfee yet. I think I'll wait before I attach a wealth figure to my web address.
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Before I used it I found the link from the Harvard prof who's behind it.
WEALTHOMETER: USA | Maximilian Kasy
If it's a scam, they did pretty well getting it on Harvard's faculty site.
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01-15-2014, 01:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre1969
I guess it just seems too "easy", because I was able to do it. And I don't consider myself anything all that special.
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Well, for some reasons that have been debated forever, some people always live pay-check-to-paycheck. I know that my NW is a lot higher compared to others that I worked with, and who had comparable salaries. Now, they may want me to share.
Anyway, when my NW is divided by 2, my ranking drops. Still, two together can live better than one with 1/2 NW, as many expenses are shared.
Hey, I just thought of something. We have two houses in different climates. That is not at all extravagant; it's the same as single persons with a single home.
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01-15-2014, 01:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jon-nyc
Before I used it I found the link from the Harvard prof who's behind it.
WEALTHOMETER: USA | Maximilian Kasy
If it's a scam, they did pretty well getting it on Harvard's faculty site.
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That's certainly more reassuring than what McAfee had to offer. Thanks, jon-nyc.
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