Who needs retirement anyway?

[JustCurious]

Who needs retirement anyway? - Money Features

"How hard is it to stay retired? As you’ve no doubt heard, football legend Brett Favre just came out of retirement — for the second time. But it isn’t just sports figures who see retirement as little more than a passing phase: Polls suggest that anywhere from one-half to three-quarters of working Americans plan to return to some sort of work after they retire — that is, if they expect to retire at all. Some can’t imagine life without some kind of work; others simply need the money. For many people, especially Gen-Xers, the notion of working after “retirement” may almost seem a given, especially for those who are struggling to save enough in the current recession."

 

[Bikerdude]

Who needs retirement anyway? - Money Features

"How hard is it to stay retired? As you’ve no doubt heard, football legend Brett Favre just came out of retirement — for the second time. But it isn’t just sports figures who see retirement as little more than a passing phase: Polls suggest that anywhere from one-half to three-quarters of working Americans plan to return to some sort of work after they retire — that is, if they expect to retire at all. Some can’t imagine life without some kind of work; others simply need the money. For many people, especially Gen-Xers, the notion of working after “retirement” may almost seem a given, especially for those who are struggling to save enough in the current recession."

My guess is this will become the new "cool" for people who cannot retire.

 

[IBWino]

I sometimes wonder if I will retire as soon as I had been planning. I am nearing the point of FI, which is slowly improving my attitude at work and will hopefully give me some control over my job.

 

[bbbamI]

People should do what makes them happy. If working pleases them, it pleases me......as I want my social security benefits...

 

[ikubak]

I sometimes wonder if I will retire as soon as I had been planning. I am nearing the point of FI, which is slowly improving my attitude at work and will hopefully give me some control over my job.

The closer I get to FI the less I want to work. This does nothing to improve my attitude. The closer I get to FI, the less focus I have on work. I find myself wanting to do other things not work related.

 

[W2R]

My attitude is rapidly deteriorating at work. I am getting rebellious and outspoken. My supervisor is probably scared of me after yesterday.

 

[growing_older]

What happened yesterday?

 

[W2R]

What happened yesterday?

I told her I [-]didn't want to [/-]wasn't going to go on a work related trip for a number of very excellent reasons, which I listed. Middle management said oh yes I was. We took it from there...

 

[LoftyNotions]

My guess is this will become the new "cool" for people who cannot retire.

I never have been "cool", and I don't plan on starting now.

 

[Nords]

I told her I [-]didn't want to [/-]wasn't going to go on a work related trip for a number of very excellent reasons, which I listed. Middle management said oh yes I was. We took it from there...

Was it a round-trip ticket?

 

[freebird5825]

My attitude is rapidly deteriorating at work. I am getting rebellious and outspoken. My supervisor is probably scared of me after yesterday.

I told her I [-]didn't want to [/-]wasn't going to go on a work related trip for a number of very excellent reasons, which I listed. Middle management said oh yes I was. We took it from there...

I knew ya had it in ya.

Travel...
Picture a person with bilateral carpal tunnel, tendonitis, painful trigger points all through her back, with all of this medically documented and an accepted Workers' Comp case still active...and I was still expected to travel, by myself.
So I whipped out the old Fraud, Waste and Abuse reg and informed them that I could easily videoteleconference at a much cheaper cost. Pin drop.
So W2R, find the reg and do your meeting by videoteleconference. What are they gonna do, not promote you in the next 79 days?

 

[kaneohe]

My attitude is rapidly deteriorating at work. I am getting rebellious and outspoken. My supervisor is probably scared of me after yesterday.

For the safety of your co-workers (esp. managers), I give you the same advice I gave DW: People like you should be required to wear an outer garment with
conspicuous labeling...."Don't Tread On Me". In CA, companies have to have post signs warning of potential hazards (mostly environmental) before people enter buildings. Seems to me, people like you and DW (before retirement) fall in the same category.......I actually felt sorry for DW's managers sometimes

 

[ejman]

Last day on the payroll December 31, 2002. Supervisor wanted me to travel right after Christmas to meet with successor on some office matters in a faraway city... Advised supervisor that wasn't going to happen. Some how the world continued to spin normally...

 

[Moscyn]

Are these the "symptoms" of early retirement - outspoken and rebellious? Because I'm certainlly exhibiting them (intend to early retire in 1 or 2 years' time). I won't call it rebellious but rather justifiably retaliating. I also realise that such behaviour may not be negative as a lot of people stop giving you nonsense and bureaucracy. I must admit that does increase productivity but not necessarily nurture a good rapport. But it does get me out of the office earlier every day.

 

[W2R]

Well, I haven't been like this up until this week, Moscyn. Good idea, Freebird, but a telecon will not satisfy management since this time I would be going to represent the agency director. Kaneohe, I need a sign like that too. And yes, Nords, it is a round trip ticket! ejman, that is encouraging because that is just about as unreasonable as this trip. Middle management is bound and determined to get me on that plane and I am not going but I hate this - - I would rather go out nicely and without all of this strife.

 

[Midpack]

I probably won't retire, but I am 265 days from eligibility for a small pension, my last barrier to retirement. I am sure it will be liberating just to have that additional option. Haven't become (more) rebellious and outspoken yet, wonder if I will? Actually I have become less rebellious and outspoken over the last few years since I realized I was getting close to pension eligibility. Interesting stuff...

 

[Moemg]

Once my decision was made to finally retire and I picked a date I got more mellow and I am pretty mellow to begin with .

 

[Rambler]

The closer I get to FIRE the more firm (outspoken, rebellious, obnoxious, depending on what flavor of the day they're pushing) I get with corporate HQ...I'm still pretty patient with my team, but there are days that bring me to the brink, even with them. As of right now, I'm pretty sure I'd make it, but still hanging on (kids in college, uncertain economy, etc).

W2R, we have different perspectives on travel, but if it were me I'd almost jump at the chance to travel, just to get away, although I know its not that simple.

R

 

[REWahoo]

The closer I get to FIRE the more firm (outspoken, rebellious, obnoxious, depending on what flavor of the day they're pushing) I get with corporate HQ...I'm still pretty patient with my team, but there are days that bring me to the brink, even with them. As of right now, I'm pretty sure I'd make it, but still hanging on (kids in college, uncertain economy, etc).

A few months before I retired my old boss, the President of our division, did exactly the same thing. He became increasingly "outspoken, rebellious, obnoxious, depending on what flavor of the day they're pushing" with corporate HQ.

End result: He retired 30 days before I did. My retirement was planned, his wasn't.

Moral: There are limits...

 

[freebird5825]

I was actually a very good girl prior to and after I submitted my official resignation letter. I was never one to pick a fight, and let a lot go by when baited, but put me in a corner...

I am proud to say I never raised my voice in spite of some very serious negative behavior from 1 particular antagonist (my female supervisor). Half the fun was keeping my cool and quoting regs which were in direct opposition of some of the silly stuff she tried to "direct" me to do.

So for 6 weeks, I walked around with a major on my face. Priceless.

I left everything in tip top order and exited with grace and dignity.

 

[Rambler]

A few months before I retired my old boss, the President of our division, did exactly the same thing. He became increasingly "outspoken, rebellious, obnoxious, depending on what flavor of the day they're pushing" with corporate HQ.

End result: He retired 30 days before I did. My retirement was planned, his wasn't.

Moral: There are limits...

Yes there are, and I try to walk on the inside of the trail as opposed to the edge of the cliff. Problem is we have a new CEO (who seems to be a real reasonable guy from the 2 telephone conversations I have had with him in the last 3 months) and all the HQ gophers are struggling tO "prove their worth" and thus doing the "new CEO strutt". I just need to keep my head below the radar...not too hard right now, but possible...

R

 

[W2R]

W2R, we have different perspectives on travel, but if it were me I'd almost jump at the chance to travel, just to get away, although I know its not that simple.

That's right. There are aspects to this travel that I just can't get into here on the public forum, but trust me, if you knew everything that was involved you wouldn't want to go on this trip either. I compliantly made the travel arrangements (as asked) without the slightest fuss, before I was told everything about the trip.

Surprisingly (considering all my ER plans are coming to fruition shortly), I have been fighting off depression during the past week or two and this is part of what is triggering it. I might post a thread on depression on the brink of ER, or might not since I think I will get through this without the need for "happy pills" or public sobbing.

 

[Walt34]

Middle management is bound and determined to get me on that plane and I am not going but I hate this - - I would rather go out nicely and without all of this strife.

With a short time to go you already have your KMA hat. As I understand it in federal government it just about takes an act of congress to fire somebody, so just extend your right hand, palm up, curl your fingers and extend the middle one. They'll get the idea, and by the time the paperwork is done to fire you you'll be retired.

What else can they do? Revoke your birthday?

 

[Moemg]

Any major change even happy ones can cause stress . Retirement is a change plus added to that often is relocation and changes in personal relationships so it is normal to be upset .

 

[W2R]

Aw, thank you all!! And thanks to all of those who just PM'd me. I will get through this and hopefully soon. It is heartwarming to know that so many of you care and picked up on what I mentioned (I thought buried deep in a thread!)