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Old 12-14-2007, 03:02 PM   #41
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Its all part of my efforts to become selfless.

Lets all remember that I defended Ho$uc at first too. He seemed quite reasonable.

Must be part of the Christmas spirit .
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Old 12-14-2007, 07:39 PM   #42
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I just want to say thank you to Brewer for all the time and effort he puts into helping us here.
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Old 12-15-2007, 02:19 AM   #43
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To coin a phrase from Bevery Hills Cop I, when Axel Foley asks Sergeant Taggert: "Why are we always fighting"??

Running Man felt it important to "tell us his qualifications" not sure why. I will always stick up for brewer because although he and I are polar opposites politically, he is IMHO a darn good analyst. He reads balance sheets and prospectuses and red herrings for a living. Same with guys like saluki9, guys that actually do portfolio management on portfolios in the 9 digit range. I don't take their financial acumen lightly.

Running Man can take folks to task all he wants, but he needs to understand, as you do, that those of us who also posess some acumen are free to challenge and refute him as does others.

It has NOTHING to do with moderation. Moderators are people too...........
Ok I went back and reviewed the last few months of Running Man posts. I didn't seen any instances when he was attacking people, being nasty, or doing anything that would warrent be called down by a moderator. Other than one crack about investing when Brewer was high school I just don't see it. (Which remind me of Reagan vs Mondale I will not hold my opponents youth and inexperience against him.. well you had to be there.)

He has consistently disagreed with the opinion of Brewer and other that bank stocks are a bargain and we will recover once Mr. Market comes to his senses. He also been bashed a lot for his opinions.

I asked Running Man his qualifications (and CPA and many years of investment experience count for something.) This is NOT an academic question for me. I own one bank stock several risk but high yielding quasi banks and have written puts on USB, BAC, WFC, and BBT of which all but USB are likely to be exercised in Jan. Since the amount involved is well in the 6 digit range, I am interest in collecting as much information as I can.

The way I figure. The group of folks who think Bank stocks are a bargain is pretty impressive
It starts with Warren Buffett, includes most of the Morningstar analyst, the professional money managers like Brewer and FinanceDude. It also includes me although in my case I pretty much worried in mostly concerned with the dividends being paid in the intermediate term.

On the side of Banks are overalued is Mr. Market who pretty routinely drives the stocks down. I can't ask the guy who sold BAC at $42.11 today. Sir could you tell me why you sold BofA. Warren Buffett owns it, Morningstar say it is worth $70, and it pays a 5.7% dividend, what were you possibly thinking when you sold it? I don't know if he sold because he was tax harvesting, he is a sheep, his mutual fund is having redemption problems and needs to raise cash, he is window dress for the end of the quarter, or he has a lot of insight in the intrinsic value of the stock.

Running Man is sort of Mr Market to me. So when he says that we are just seeing the tip of the non-performing loan problem, and he'd be interested in BofA at $12 why this in interesting red flag to me that even the smart money can be wrong. So lets not discourage long time but infrequent posters ok?
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Old 12-15-2007, 08:43 AM   #44
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Seems to me as though a lot of angina could be avoided if, when responding to the ideas of others, posters on discussion boards would simply behave as they would in a "real life" social situation. Is there any doubt about how long a corporate manager would last if he responded to the ideas of his peers or subordinates (not to mention his superiors) by prefacing his opinion with the equivalent of "You clearly have no understanding of this issue" or "As I've told you over and over. . ." Or if he stuck his head into a meeting addressed to a perceived threat to the business only to crow, "Tin hat, tin hat!"? The message of disrespect and derision is no less powerful in an internet forum than it is in the workplace.
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Old 12-15-2007, 02:42 PM   #45
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Seems to me as though a lot of angina could be avoided if, when responding to the ideas of others, posters on discussion boards would simply behave as they would in a "real life" social situation. Is there any doubt about how long a corporate manager would last if he responded to the ideas of his peers or subordinates (not to mention his superiors) by prefacing his opinion with the equivalent of "You clearly have no understanding of this issue" or "As I've told you over and over. . ." Or if he stuck his head into a meeting addressed to a perceived threat to the business only to crow, "Tin hat, tin hat!"? The message of disrespect and derision is no less powerful in an internet forum than it is in the workplace.
Isn't that how most corporate managers actually act in real life?!?!

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Old 12-15-2007, 02:54 PM   #46
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Isn't that how most corporate managers actually act in real life?!?!
Pretty much normal behavior where I worked. You should have seen how we treated vendors . It probably seems like a normal work conversation to Brewer .
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Superiors? No.

Peers? Most don't, some do.

Subordinates? Many (but IME not most) do.
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