Our goal is to max out the 22% bracket or maybe even the 24%. Currently our 2021 taxable income is very low because we are living from our taxable portfolio and generated enough cash last year to fund this year. We aren’t trying to manage income for ACA purposes. While part of me feels having a zero or very low tax year would be great, another part of me feels that we should pay taxes now at lower rates rather than continue to defer.
In thinking about ways to generate more income this year, we could:
- Cash out an employer provided annuity. This would result in generating only about 1/3 of income we could generate and remain in the 24% bracket. There are some surrender charges but there are also high fees so I’m ok with cashing it out. We would reinvest the proceeds.
- Do a Roth conversion. We don’t have any Roth IRA’s now. Traditional IRA’s make up about 1/3 of our financial assets. The rest are taxable brokerage accounts and a couple of employer-provided deferred compensation and annuity accounts. We have looked at Roth conversions before using i-Orp and other modeling tools and it has never been particularly advantageous for us. We have no children or heirs we want to leave big bucks to.
- Realize LTCG’s. Almost half of the value of our taxable accounts is unrealized gains. We don’t need to do a material rebalancing to get our asset allocation to our target, but we could realize some of our capital gains now and immediately repurchase the same investments, thereby resetting our basis and paying capital gains taxes at 2021 rates.
One other factor influencing us is that we are 61 and 62 now. Haven’t turned on any future income streams yet - my pension, either of our SS, nor are we withdrawing from any IRA’s. The pension, two SS’s, and eventual RMD’s will drive our income up quite a bit in future years.
Our CPA recommended the capital gains route because he feels capital gains tax rates are likely to increase more and potentially sooner than ordinary income rates. He feels that Roth’s would be good for our heirs but not so good for us.
Just wondering if anyone thinks we are missing something important? Or thinks we are crazy to pay tax now if we don’t have to?
In thinking about ways to generate more income this year, we could:
- Cash out an employer provided annuity. This would result in generating only about 1/3 of income we could generate and remain in the 24% bracket. There are some surrender charges but there are also high fees so I’m ok with cashing it out. We would reinvest the proceeds.
- Do a Roth conversion. We don’t have any Roth IRA’s now. Traditional IRA’s make up about 1/3 of our financial assets. The rest are taxable brokerage accounts and a couple of employer-provided deferred compensation and annuity accounts. We have looked at Roth conversions before using i-Orp and other modeling tools and it has never been particularly advantageous for us. We have no children or heirs we want to leave big bucks to.
- Realize LTCG’s. Almost half of the value of our taxable accounts is unrealized gains. We don’t need to do a material rebalancing to get our asset allocation to our target, but we could realize some of our capital gains now and immediately repurchase the same investments, thereby resetting our basis and paying capital gains taxes at 2021 rates.
One other factor influencing us is that we are 61 and 62 now. Haven’t turned on any future income streams yet - my pension, either of our SS, nor are we withdrawing from any IRA’s. The pension, two SS’s, and eventual RMD’s will drive our income up quite a bit in future years.
Our CPA recommended the capital gains route because he feels capital gains tax rates are likely to increase more and potentially sooner than ordinary income rates. He feels that Roth’s would be good for our heirs but not so good for us.
Just wondering if anyone thinks we are missing something important? Or thinks we are crazy to pay tax now if we don’t have to?