2022’s Best States to Retire- WalletHub

[Koolau]

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Originally Posted by Qs Laptop Shoreline mileage was a metric in the Quality of Life section. I can see where Florida would score huge in this category. Also I suppose CA, VA, MA, ME, and even RI would benefit. As your wife's friends daughter points out, shoreline might not be important to people's quality of life. I can understand it might be for some people, but not all. I didn't see "mountain views" as a category. That is more important to me than shoreline mileage.

I sort of go back and forth between mountains and ocean as "most important." I have both here in Paradise and neither back on the mainland. Still, when I get back to the mainland, I kind of like seeing the corn fields. Go figure.

"Shoreline" is an interesting metric that can be considered in different ways. For instance, Arizona has quite a lot of shoreline since the Colorado river runs either through or along the length of the state.

If one were to calculate the shoreline vs land mass, I'm guessing Hawaii would come out on top since it's a group of Islands with small land mass but all of it surrounded by the Pacific.

All this is why any source for "best" location needs a lot more detail than simply "quality of life" when considering a move. YMMV

[11522914]

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Originally Posted by Qs Laptop I didn't see "mountain views" as a category. That is more important to me than shoreline mileage.

+100

[Music Lover]

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Originally Posted by Qs Laptop Shoreline mileage was a metric in the Quality of Life section. I can see where Florida would score huge in this category. Also I suppose CA, VA, MA, ME, and even RI would benefit. As your wife's friends daughter points out, shoreline might not be important to people's quality of life. I can understand it might be for some people, but not all. I didn't see "mountain views" as a category. That is more important to me than shoreline mileage.

I understand wanting a water or mountain view, although for me I wouldn't pay the premium because although it would be nice it's not a deal breaker. But I got lucky. We live in a city on a lot that's 116' x 630' where the back property line is the city boundary and borders undeveloped farmland with lots of trees. I laid out the decks, fence, and garage such that when we sit on the deck we can't see any other houses at all. It feels like we're in the country.

It's not a water view or a mountain view, but for a house in the city it's ideal.

[ShokWaveRider]

I guess it does not matter either way when it is 50 Degrees outside (Now) and going down to 35 Degrees tonight , I ain't going near the patio doors let alone going outside to look.

[Koolau]

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Originally Posted by ShokWaveRider I guess it does not matter either way when it is 50 Degrees outside (Now) and going down to 35 Degrees tonight , I ain't going near the patio doors let alone going outside to look.

While I agree with many that "good weather" - however one defines that - is not the only important criterion when determining quality of life. It does go a long way in allowing one to enjoy whatever IS their most important criterion. YMMV

[FI_RElater]

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Originally Posted by corn18 MI ALASKA actually has the most shoreline.

Fixed that for you

..and I'd agree that, if one is going to have a "shoreline" category, then there should be a "mountain view" category...

(only thing is that then there's the issue of what is a "mountain"...I'd say at least 8000 ft (even though I'm kinda partial to a state with the most "Fourteeners" , and could show you a view from the window of multiple mountains... there's usually someone saying "well, we call it a mountain" when those with the real deal call those two or three thousand ft elevations..."(mole) hills" {SWIDT? })

[Gumby]

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Originally Posted by FI_RElater Fixed that for you ..and I'd agree that, if one is going to have a "shoreline" category, then there should be a "mountain view" category... (only thing is that then there's the issue of what is a "mountain"...I'd say at least 8000 ft (even though I'm kinda partial to a state with the most "Fourteeners" , and could show you a view from the window of multiple mountains... there's usually someone saying "well, we call it a mountain" when those with the real deal call those two or three thousand ft elevations..."(mole) hills" {SWIDT? })

No one who has ever climbed New Hampshire's Mount Washington (6288 ft.) would call it anything but a mountain. Probably the most common starting point is the Joe Dodge Lodge at 2032 ft. So that's 4256 feet in elevation gain in about 6500 feet horizontal. The Tuckerman Ravine headwall, on the most popular trail, is about 600 feet vertical for 600 feet horizontal. It is no easy thing to climb.

[Luvtoride]

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Originally Posted by Gumby No one who has ever climbed New Hampshire's Mount Washington (6288 ft.) would call it anything but a mountain. Probably the most common starting point is the Joe Dodge Lodge at 2032 ft. So that's 4256 feet in elevation gain in about 6500 feet horizontal. The Tuckerman Ravine headwall, on the most popular trail, is about 600 feet vertical for 600 feet horizontal. It is no easy thing to climb.

I know a few friends who have ridden bikes up Mount Washington on the day they close it to vehicles. Now that is an accomplishment worthy of a bumper sticker(but I’m not quite sure where you would put it in a bike). Lol

[DayDreaming]

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Originally Posted by Luvtoride Or as I read it...the Worst State to retire in is New Jersey, where I live and plan to stay.

Same here - I live in NJ, I am perfectly happy here and have no plans on leaving.

Many of the criteria used in their methodology are pretty questionable and have nothing to do with my level of happiness:

• "Access to Scenic Byways" - doesn't affect my daily activities
• "Share of Residents Who Do Favors to Their Neighbors" - Whaaaaat How would they measure this one?!
• "Share of Population Aged 65 and Older" - I prefer to be around people under 65
• "Museums per Capita" - not sure what this number is for NJ but I'm just an hour away from NYC and Philadelphia so I have a lot of great museums that are an easy day trip away, and that's probably true for many smaller states or people who live near a state line. Just saying it's a questionable statistic.
• etc...

[corn18]

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Originally Posted by FI_RElater Fixed that for you ..and I'd agree that, if one is going to have a "shoreline" category, then there should be a "mountain view" category... (only thing is that then there's the issue of what is a "mountain"...I'd say at least 8000 ft (even though I'm kinda partial to a state with the most "Fourteeners" , and could show you a view from the window of multiple mountains... there's usually someone saying "well, we call it a mountain" when those with the real deal call those two or three thousand ft elevations..."(mole) hills" {SWIDT? })

Dangit, I forgot the disclaimer.