3 biggest ER surprises

I was a little nervous about that, too, especially since everybody at work thought I'd get bored. I made list like you did, a wish list of about two dozen things I always wanted to do or study but hadn't had time for. These ranged from playing piano again, to learning Mexican Spanish, to gardening, to going back to school to get that MBA I always wanted, and more. That list made a wonderful crutch for me and kept me from feeling bored because when I felt adrift (and sometimes I did at first), I knew I could start on my list.

Turned out I really didn't need to start on anything on that list; I just needed to know the list was there for me so I wouldn't panic. I haven't even started the first thing on that list so far during nearly 5 years of retirement.

Glad you shared this, because I have a feeling my experience will be much like yours. I drafted a long list before retiring, and so far I've only done some brainstorming about a couple of items on it.

My guess would be that most intelligent people are capable of entertaining themselves; or at least, I am and I still don't have enough time for everything that comes to mind. I just didn't know this until I retired and had the opportunity to see how things went.

That's my sense too. I believe a truly successful education instills in us the ability to keep learning -- on our own -- the rest of our lives. I'm coming to realize that never does this pay off more than in early retirement.
 
"A friend works at a large mutual fund company and she'd said at one point that they always needed part-timers to handle customer service- not selling, but processing requests to change in and out of funds."

This sounds like an ideal transition job for me - would love to know more!
 
1. I'm surprised that I'm not as anxious as I thought I would be (giving up the sizable paycheck). Although it has only been 3 months. I've been busy with the details of my recently deceased Mom's Will and small estate. I think that has kept my mind occupied. I've just been able to start on some of my "retirement to do's" list.

2. I don't miss work at all. That really surprised me.

3. I've really cut back on the amount of TV I watch. I would rather listen to music instead.

So far - so good and am now anticipating DH joining me in 2016!



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Retired five years

I am surprised at how quickly time passes.

I'm surprised how much I resent having my time scheduled. Some weeks when I have a lot scheduled I find myself resenting it even though most of the scheduled events are pleasant. Turns out that I am not too keen on having to be somewhere at a specific time.

I'm surprised at how much I have appreciated retirement in the bad times as well as enjoy the good times. My mother passed away and I was able to spend her last month with her. I would not have been able to do this if I was still working. I am grateful for that time.


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I'm surprised how much I resent having my time scheduled. Some weeks when I have a lot scheduled I find myself resenting it even though most of the scheduled events are pleasant. Turns out that I am not too keen on having to be somewhere at a specific time.

I'm right there with you. In anticipation of ER, I stopped using a watch. Very freeing.
 
1. I was surprised to find I was reluctant to admit to others that I am retired. At first I guess this was partly because there was a possibility I would return to work and I didn't want to appear foolish. Later it was because I did not want to brag or make others feel uncomfortable, especially friends or family of similar age who don't like their jobs (most of them). I am coming out of this lately and am beginning to feel more comfortable telling people I am retired.

2. I thought I would spend more money. I am actually struggling to spend as much now as I did when I was working. All of my financial models suggest I could spend more than I do, and I am making a concerted effort to splurge more on myself in 2015.

3. I thought I would volunteer more, do pro bono work, and generally seek out ways of replicating work in order to find "meaning" in my life. I have come to find that I simply enjoy taking each day as it comes and that "meaning" comes from doing what I feel like doing without living according to others' demands or expectations. If opportunities come up where I can help out others I take them. If at other times I just feel like hanging out at the gym or chilling at a coffee shop all afternoon so be it.


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1) That I actually like doing nada. I thought I might miss p*ssing people off at w*rk. I also thought I might miss "contributing". When I announced my ER to my boss, he told me he liked two things about me (I was FI and could say what I wanted): I could and did translate "Geek-talk to English", I told him my opinion, not what he thought I thought I should tell him.

2) You always worry about $ to some extent. Been ER'd for ~8 years. Our NW is about 150% of what it was at RE. Still, you never know, bad stuff might happen......................... don't obsess over it.

3) How much I hate winter, here in the frozen North. Never liked it but when I worked, I had somewhere to go at -44C.

4) how I should honour Allah by joining Jihad in the middle east (OK, just kidding and maybe not funny) but I've run out of things to contribute.

Having retired, I sometimes feel sympathy with Wiley in the first part of this video, the second not so much.

WARNING - NOT FOR WORK

WARNING - NOT FOR THOSE WHO TAKE OFFENSE EASILY
 
My three surprises:

1) How most everything I need is within a 10 mile radius....don't need to travel to Houston! I've rediscovered my town...Sugar Land!

2) I've lost 20 lbs since retiring and enjoy my jaunts to Whole Foods and HEB (local Texas supermarket)

3) No longer worry about if my pension will be enough....loving my federal pension that covers expenses plus money for saving. (I still live by a budget....and take my casino get aways every few months)
 
Rick_Head, I love it!!!

+1: Best post I have read today. Thanks.

Although, #3 about hating winter frightens me. But, I am hoping that when I actually ER, I will have time and energy to escape the winter desolation regularly. (My idea of a white Christmas involves certain Caribbean white sand beaches, palm trees with the only ice in sight floating in my drink.)
 
1. I don't miss the work aspect of work, at all.

2. Although an introvert, I do mildly miss the social aspect of work.

3. Expenses are lower than predicted.
 
1. I was surprised to find I was reluctant to admit to others that I am retired. At first I guess this was partly because there was a possibility I would return to work and I didn't want to appear foolish. Later it was because I did not want to brag or make others feel uncomfortable, especially friends or family of similar age who don't like their jobs (most of them). I am coming out of this lately and am beginning to feel more comfortable telling people I am retired.

2. I thought I would spend more money. I am actually struggling to spend as much now as I did when I was working. All of my financial models suggest I could spend more than I do, and I am making a concerted effort to splurge more on myself in 2015.

3. I thought I would volunteer more, do pro bono work, and generally seek out ways of replicating work in order to find "meaning" in my life. I have come to find that I simply enjoy taking each day as it comes and that "meaning" comes from doing what I feel like doing without living according to others' demands or expectations. If opportunities come up where I can help out others I take them. If at other times I just feel like hanging out at the gym or chilling at a coffee shop all afternoon so be it. ....

Frighteningly similar experience here. Almost 3 years in, I am almost comfortable conceding that I am retired but I am still careful to try not to seem like I'm bragging. We have done some splurging as we have become more comfortable spending rather than saving, but the market performance has increased our nestegg by 20% despite our modest withdrawals.

While I sometimes feel I should do more volunteering, I have been amazed how content I can be just puttering around and not doing much of anything. The free time has enabled me to help some friends and family with small projects which helps keeps me busy. I also take an occasional afternoon nap.
 
I FIREd 9 months ago and it is finally really feeling like a different phase. Even good change is challenging, so I searched past strings for others’ experiences to compare and found this excellent, affirming string started by Focus. I decided to bump it up and to pluck out some of the some of the observations I most resonate with.

*. Worrying less about money. We have a plan with a lot of built in contingencies so trust the numbers.

*. Getting along better with DW, mostly because all the irritants related to work are gone.

*. I enjoyed and am proud of my career but I have no interest in my former profession or work place.

*. The “Gap Year” desire has gone away. We still want to travel but we had a BIG PLAN, which I now admit was mostly a coping fantasy to get me through hard work periods.

*. I thought that leaving w*rk behind would be like a light switch flipping to instant bliss. It was not like that at all for me and has been more of a dimmer switch. From what I read, my adjustment will take at least 18 months.

* Work muscles were very strong at first and I had to force myself to let them atrophy. Old habits are hard to break so I have to tell myself that I already DID the earning, striving, selling, meetings and sitting in front of a screen. If black swan financial clouds emerge someday, I’d rather adapt spending at that time.

* I have MASSIVE LISTS accumulated over many years of places to visit, things to do for extra money or just life bucket lists. They feel far less urgent. The one I might delete is things for extra money, because I’m saving so much money in FIRE, unexpectedly.

*. We have adapted to our animals and their daily pace. How did we ever leave them everyday?

*. I have become allergic to calendar commitments and have forgotten some entirely. People talk about needing a volunteer gig or part time job but that would mean something on the calendar and being accountable. No thanks.

*. Expenses have unexpectedly fallen through the floor, thanks to no costs to work, lower taxes, and lower consumption generally. I expect some to increase modestly post-Covid.

*. I’m 55 and am having trouble saying “I’m retired”. I project on others that they cannot comprehend, are jealous, think I’m reckless or think I’m lazy. This is all my garbage and I need to practice saying the words and grow out of it.

*. I have gained 10-15 pounds. Call it Covid stress eating. I know how to cut carbs and probably will post vaccination.

*. Alcohol use is up, but that has a lot to do with having more time to develop and enjoy my passion for wine and how to pair it with food.

*. Often, when I’m out for a walk, I’m suddenly overcome by repressed gratitude and happiness. I am moved to swing my arms like a windmill to express that I’m done with the burdens of the past agreed phase and am embracing what the future holds!

It appears I have more than the 3 Reasons from the title. What is missing?? 🤠
 
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I FIREd 9 months ago and it is finally really feeling like a different phase. Even good change is challenging, so I searched past strings for others’ experiences to compare and found this excellent, affirming string started by Focus. I decided to bump it up and to pluck out some of the some of the observations I most resonate with.


Lovely post. Thank you!
 
I FIREd 9 months ago and it is finally really feeling like a different phase. Even good change is challenging, so I searched past strings for others’ experiences to compare and found this excellent, affirming string started by Focus. I decided to bump it up and to pluck out some of the some of the observations I most resonate with...

Wow. Never expected this old post to be bumped! Glad you found it affirming. Our experiences aligned almost exactly.

You might be interested in the sequel: Top 3 findings in 3 years
 
Thanks a lot, Focus. That other string makes me look forward to the 2+ year mark to really achieve detoxification. I think I will agree with your 3 year list at that time, too. Huzzah!
 
One month into ER, these are the three things that have most surprised me:

3. Time goes by much quicker than when I worked full time.

2. I now know I'll never be bored. I was never bored before, but I wondered if that might change. I've come to realize that it's very easy for me to stay mentally engaged, and being an introvert (like most of us here), I don't even have to ramp up my socializing to do so.

1. I've stopped worrying about having enough money. This has been a shocker, considering how much energy I expended on financial planning for retirement and how many calculator simulations I ran.

3 - It's about the same for me.
2 - +1
1 - I was never really worried, just aware that what the stock market gives, it can also take away.

(1) How outrageously wonderful retirement is!

(2) Lessened desire to move away or go on road trips or day trips, probably because I no longer have a job, so there is nothing I want to get away from any more.

1 - +1, although I always hoped for that.
2 - Not in any way agree here. I love the freedom (time) and $ to travel.

My add is that I am surprised after all the years of LBYM and careful spending, I am now so much into Blow That Dough! The strong market helps.
 
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