Anyone Else Soured on Dining Out?

Wait a minute!

Eating out, in general, is not so good in the US (except for in New Orleans).

You need to get to Fort Worth.
The number of great restaurants is astounding.
Our 2 oldest went to TCU & our DD stayed in FW.
Every time we visit she asks where we want to eat--and it's always tough as EVERY new place (new to us) she takes is is SO good.
Easter weekend we had the best meal I have EVER had.

(We have only done an overnight in NO & at at our hotel--Old No. 77 Hotel & Chanderly--it was very good. The coolest bar area I've seen anywhere)
 
Eating out, in general, is not so good in the US (except for in New Orleans). Service is a crapshoot, and the general quality of food isn't very good.

Our American mass-produced food industry is the primary culprit. Diversity of ingredients, diversity of flavors, and protecting the integrity and quality of our food all are afterthoughts to getting the price down.

Almost 30 years in New Orleans til Katrina. I'm out and out bigoted although a few places(unnamed) came close in greater Kansas City pre-Covid. Weather let's us eat outdoors now so expect to try some of the old favorites over the summer. - BBQ, Thai, Mexican and American 'burger'.

heh heh heh - paradox is trying one meal a day/intermittent fasting to keep a grip on weight and the 'live to eat' picked up living in New Orleans. :facepalm:
 
Never Stopped Going Out

During the pandemic or since, we never stopped going out. We don't go to expensive places since my wife and I always have been of the mindset that we would rather go out a few times instead of one expensive time. The food isn't that much different between most place anyways. For example, if we want Italian food we'll head to Fazoli's, where we like the sauce better than the higher priced chains or standalone restaurants. And we can still appreciate a good meal like when we are on cruises eating in the main dining room, and we upgrade to lobster or filet mignon, but we get that at a discounted price. Just our choice whether we can afford high priced establishments or not.
 
Koolau, you keep using Kenosha in your examples. It’s my hometown. Have you ever been there?
 
I guess if the food tastes like everyone else's food, that's a problem. If it tastes the same as any other place in the nation or world in THAT chain, I'm okay with that. IOW if I like it in Kenosha, I'll like it in Orlando. Turns out that's not always the case.

We really like Panda Express in Honolulu (there are several, and they all suit us.) Last year when we finally got home to the old homestead, we went to a Panda express and it was terrible. We finally noticed that all the cooks were midwesterners, just like us. In Honolulu, they are all, well, Chinese in background. It makes a difference! YMMV


Our local Panda Express in the Bay Area is pretty decent for the price. We also like to get dim sum from 99 Ranch.
 
Koolau, you keep using Kenosha in your examples. It’s my hometown. Have you ever been there?

I have friends in Kenosha. Now that Anaconda closed the big brass mill years ago, most of my old friends retired (poor), or moved. One old friend opened a bar in Kenosha. He was lucky to find one corner on a street not already occupied by a bar and opened his. Every bar had a softball team. Heck, it was like the American and National leagues there were so many teams!

I used to go to the Holiday Inn by the lake when I visited there and get in a poker game in one of the rooms. Great times! Even the hookers stopped by the games to chat between "jobs".

Great memories from Kenosha, the original home of American Motors.
 
Living in the San Francisco Bay Area, one never needs to cook as deli and take-out food is everywhere, delivery services abound, and fast-casual eateries are opening up every week.

I love to cook, and cost is no object. But time and effort is, which means I also love to dine out and do it often. No shopping, no prep, no clean-up, no fuss. I can have Filet Rossini and my spouse can have Yuzu Glazed Black Cod, and we're both happy.

Supporting local businesses is important to us, and dining out is one of our three major expenditures. The pandemic and long lockdowns were very hard on the independent small restaurants of all types, so there's been much adjusting of menus.

We tend to go out on weekdays, and often at lunch. Many places are no longer open every day, and/or have reduced hours as well as staff. We try to be understanding, and have recently noticed staffing and days open are showing some improvements.

Costs have risen for everything - whether I drive my car to the grocery store or to a restaurant. Looked at any hotel prices lately? Those have gone through the roof. I don't object to higher restaurant prices. Inflation, supply chain issues, and higher labor costs have created the perfect storm for the restaurant industry. It's not like any chef WANTS to price a dish so high no one can afford it!

I personally detest QR codes and don't pay for anything through my phone, but that's just me, LOL. Have no problem using CC or "tap to pay"; you're always covered for fraudulent charges and nobody's going to steal our IDs, since we froze our credit reports so long ago you didn't even need PIN #s in those days.

I do have to say I would never use a debit card again for purchases. That's the one time our card # was stolen, and the checking account was emptied within literally minutes. It took 18 months for us to recover the money from our bank. Since these days we run 7x that much through the account on a monthly basis, there is no way I will risk using a debit card again for purchases.

BTW, if any of you come visit the SFBA you need to be aware many small businesses no longer even accept cash. A funny anecdote: a couple of years ago we drove to one of the smaller suburban cities for lunch, and parked the car on the street. Went to put time on the meter, and were flummoxed that it only took coins! No credit cards! We had to rummage through the console storage to find enough quarters, LOL.
 
We stopped eating out when Covid got big, and didn't resume until last summer (summer of 2021). We started traveling again and ate in a variety of restaurants, fast food to deluxe, over several months. The experiences were uniformly awful- limited menus, poorly cooked, incredibly slow and bad service. High prices.

Last month we took a two week driving drip from Chicago to Colorado, and all around that state. The prices are still high, but the service was usually ok and the food acceptable. Overall, much better than a year ago. Perhaps when the masses hit the roads things will decline again, hopefully not.
 
We eat out on occasion, but not too often. I’ve not seen any drop off in service quality, but there are more limited menu items and everything is more expensive. We eat much more at home because of health reasons, but the occasional night out is fun.
I agree with this poster. Except that we travel a lot and when traveling it is easier to eat out. At home where I have a fully stocked kitchen it is easier, healthier and far cheaper to eat at home and in most cases as good.

Tomorrow making Sweetbreads also know as Riz d'veau or Mollejas where I am, in a lemon cream sauce at home over rice. There isn't a restaurant within 75 miles that can do that
 
I agree with this poster. Except that we travel a lot and when traveling it is easier to eat out. At home where I have a fully stocked kitchen it is easier, healthier and far cheaper to eat at home and in most cases as good.

Tomorrow making Sweetbreads also know as Riz d'veau or Mollejas where I am, in a lemon cream sauce at home over rice. There isn't a restaurant within 75 miles that can do that

You can have my share. In any city, I seek out the best pizza. So far, haven't found any really good pizza in Honolulu, but YMMV.
 
DH and I use to enjoy going to nicer restaurants. But, the experience has diminished over the past few years. It seems the ambiance is gone with the newer designs (hard floors, higher ceilings, open floor plans, etc.) and rooms are so loud you can’t carry on a conversation. We still haven’t gone out for our anniversary dinner and that was in early May. We aren’t cheap, but the value for the experience just isn’t there. Plus, DH is a great cook. We can enjoy a nice meal with wine, a view of the sound, and enjoyable music in our home for a fraction of the cost. We do occasionally eat out with friends after golf, but typically more pub type food. We are going to investigate a few of the farm to table establishments and see how that goes.
 
After church, today, some folks were talking about going out together. We stopped at the place and it was loud, the menu was Dennys on steroids and most of the folks backed out when we heard that there was a 30 minute wait. So, we just came home to scramble some eggs and cook some tube biscuits. Will taste as good as a restaurant and it will be pleasantly quite. Next week, we'll do some research and see if anyone wants to make a reservation - someplace else. YMMV
 
DH and I use to enjoy going to nicer restaurants. But, the experience has diminished over the past few years. It seems the ambiance is gone with the newer designs (hard floors, higher ceilings, open floor plans, etc.) and rooms are so loud you can’t carry on a conversation.

+1 Bingo!

The modern restaurant design which seems to elevate compounding noises through the entire restaurant is a non-starter for me. I refuse to go back to places where I have to raise my voice just to have a conversation with the person sitting across from me.
 
+1 Bingo!

The modern restaurant design which seems to elevate compounding noises through the entire restaurant is a non-starter for me. I refuse to go back to places where I have to raise my voice just to have a conversation with the person sitting across from me.
It is amazing how loud most restaurants are these days, at all price points. All it takes is one loud table, and everyone turns up their volume, it's horrible. Some of the higher end places are quieter, but still louder than decades ago.
 
I've always assumed the sound level is one more gimmick to get you out the door more quickly. We noticed the sound level in especially LVNV restaurants. Additionally, carpets were typically garishly colored and there was a noticeable bustle and hurry among the wait staff. In short - you were encouraged to finish your meal and go back through the casino. Same in regular restaurants it seems - turnover is key to profits. YMMV
 
We had a $25 gift card for Boston Pizza. My opinion, it's average food at above average prices. Anyway we didn't feel like cooking and went for dinner. 1 large pizza, a 23 ounce draft for me, a margarita for the wife. The total was $72 after taxes and tip. $47 after using the gift card.

I doubt we'll be going back.
 
We had a $25 gift card for Boston Pizza. My opinion, it's average food at above average prices. Anyway we didn't feel like cooking and went for dinner. 1 large pizza, a 23 ounce draft for me, a margarita for the wife. The total was $72 after taxes and tip. $47 after using the gift card.

I doubt we'll be going back.

For less than the price of that meal you could have bought one of these:

https://smile.amazon.com/Presto-034...=1655059735&sprefix=pizza+oven,aps,168&sr=8-4

I have no idea how well it works. But, having made pizza at home, I know that you can create a very good pizza for well under $10 worth ingredients.
 
Trying prepared meals tonight for the first time. Goal is 2x weekly for this aspect at $20 daily total.
 
One more thing - actually two. !) switched to lunch at locally owned - where it appears the workingman grabs lunch in some of the 'industrial/warehouse/office areas er research ongoing and 2) 'da church' post covid hasn't got all it's members back (aka $) so the 'chefs' are doing a lot in-house and take out over the summer to raise $. Some of these are pretty good meals.

Heh heh heh -

P.S. Going to Cleveland OH for a week (relatives wedding) any hole in wall local places ??
 
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I agree with the comments about noisy restaurants. It’s actually one of our criteria when going out, especially with anyone else we want to catch up with. I guess younger folks enjoy the din, but DH and I love going to nice quiet places where we can have a quality conversation. Yet another reason to avoid going out.
 
I went to Golden Corral today, Sunday, where they grill fresh juicy steaks at lunch. I didn't sit down and dine in, and just told the cook to give me 6 big slabs of steaks in 2 take out box. Paid $22+ bucks. Wife grilled 2 corns at home, and we were so full, we were not even able to consume 1 steak cut. So, we still got around 6 more meals with it. :)
 
+1 Bingo!

The modern restaurant design which seems to elevate compounding noises through the entire restaurant is a non-starter for me. I refuse to go back to places where I have to raise my voice just to have a conversation with the person sitting across from me.

+1 and another Bingo!
 
We had a $25 gift card for Boston Pizza. My opinion, it's average food at above average prices. Anyway we didn't feel like cooking and went for dinner. 1 large pizza, a 23 ounce draft for me, a margarita for the wife. The total was $72 after taxes and tip. $47 after using the gift card.

I doubt we'll be going back.

:eek: $72!!! I could understand $47 for the beer, margarita, and a large pizza but that would be my limit. However, I still buy a Pappa Murphy's pizza for $11 to cook at home and enjoy a nice stout or brown ale for $2. Otherwise I would make pizza at home. The important thing is the bread and tomato sauce which are easy to make and freeze extra for the next pizza.

Cheers!
 
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