Join Early Retirement Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Athanasia - extraoperative electrocorticography
Old 11-10-2013, 05:45 PM   #1
Gone but not forgotten
imoldernu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Peru
Posts: 6,335
Athanasia - extraoperative electrocorticography

Life after FIRE... An Immodest Proposal

Last week, watched "The Bucket List", for the first time. The bittersweet ending left me searching for some kind of alternative, and after extensive study, have come up with a better alternative, that will be particularly atrtractive to those us who may be facing challenges in a relatively short time.

Ergo... am drawing up options to the unsated yearnings of near four score years. Options that are here and now, and not in a far off imaginative nirvana.

Instead of pain and suffering, a simple, non invasive (medicare-paid) low maintenance benefit to simplify and resolve the most egregious concerns of todays' goverment.. "How to make the declining years comfortable and monetarily acceptable. " or "Solving the Population and Environmental Challenges"

electrocorticography

Simple maintenance of the physical brain (with or without the physical body) and advanced connections will allow the continuation of the cerebral processes, and extended stimulation of all of the physical senses, as well as the interaction with the cerebral cortex.

With the level of artificial intelligence already obtined, a simple means of attaining the ultimate dream of mankind.

Move over Johnathan Swift...

Ya got a better idea?
__________________
If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion.
--Dalai Lama XIV
imoldernu is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 11-10-2013, 06:28 PM   #2
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 11,401
I don't get it. You are proposing to push up daisies Athanasia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia while having an intracranial EEG recorded Electrocorticography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ?
Meadbh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2013, 06:52 PM   #3
Full time employment: Posting here.
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 969
I think something along the lines of the Matrix or 2010's Repo Men is what is being suggested. Beats the current alternative; but, I'd still like some contact with reality...I think.
__________________
If there's one thing in my life that's missing; It's the time I spend alone
Sailing on the cool and bright clear waters; There's lots of those friendly people
Showin me ways to go; And I never want to lose your inspiration
CoolChange is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2013, 06:53 PM   #4
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
MRG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 11,078
Jack Daniels?

MRG
MRG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2013, 06:57 PM   #5
Moderator Emeritus
M Paquette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Portland
Posts: 4,946
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meadbh View Post
I don't get it. You are proposing to push up daisies Athanasia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia while having an intracranial EEG recorded Electrocorticography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ?
Nah. He's talking about living large, enjoying that Mi-Go Brain Cylinder lifestyle.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mi-go

Some bedtime reading:
http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary...indarkness.htm

Pleasant dreams, Night Vale, pleasant dreams!
M Paquette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2013, 07:01 PM   #6
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 11,401
Too weird! Definitely not the ultimate dream of this womankind. I'd rather base jump without a parachute, thank you very much (and I am afraid of heights).
Meadbh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2013, 08:12 PM   #7
Moderator Emeritus
Bestwifeever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 17,774
Quote:
Originally Posted by imoldernu View Post
...

Ya got a better idea?
Marijuana
__________________
“Would you like an adventure now, or would you like to have your tea first?” J.M. Barrie, Peter Pan
Bestwifeever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2013, 08:27 PM   #8
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
bbbamI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Collin County, TX
Posts: 9,296
Quote:
Originally Posted by MRG View Post
Jack Daniels?

MRG
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bestwifeever View Post
Marijuana
...and chocolate chip cookies.
__________________
There's no need to complicate, our time is short..
bbbamI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2013, 06:40 AM   #9
Gone but not forgotten
imoldernu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Peru
Posts: 6,335
Quote:
Originally Posted by M Paquette View Post
Nah. He's talking about living large, enjoying that Mi-Go Brain Cylinder lifestyle.
Pleasant dreams, Night Vale, pleasant dreams!
Very close... Thank you for your expertise.

Jack Daniels, Chocolate Chip cookies and (gasp) Marijuana... Well, yeah... similar results, but so short termed...

Matrix and Repo Men... In a way, but eliminate the physical being and physical existence and physical interaction, and add interactive self determined, self controlled total pleasure, infinite wisdom, physical sensory perception and exemption from anything negative.

...but you all have the right idea...
As the science of the brain proceeds with exponentially productive results, we're able to stimulate and interact... and yes, in most cases, to control not only the five senses but the deeper parts of the brain... imagination, creativity, storage, and even learning and logic. Think "Inceptiion".
In short, all of the best parts of life, without the downside of death.

A little bit like "Hal" but with a human component.

... so, given a choice... athanasia? or hemlock?

This is the kind of stuff that happens when I have too much time on my hands... Time to head back to Florida. "Cocoon"".
__________________
If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion.
--Dalai Lama XIV
imoldernu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2013, 08:20 AM   #10
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Live And Learn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Tampa Bay Area
Posts: 1,866
I recently read a story about a 32 year old man, newly married and expecting a baby who fell from a tree while hunting, shattered 3 of his neck vertebra. They brought him out of a medically induced coma and told him and was told he would be paralyzed from the neck down for life. They then asked him if he wanted his life support turned off. He said yes, and died later that day.

My vision of heaven is that we are all points of light - no physical being. That is my ideal "brain without a body" and that would be my choice.
__________________
"For the time being no discipline brings joy, but seems grievous and painful; but afterwards it yields a peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it." ~
Hebrews 12:11

ER'd in June 2015 at age 52. Initial WR 3%. 50/40/10 (Equity/Bond/Short Term) AA.
Live And Learn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2013, 03:20 PM   #11
Moderator Emeritus
M Paquette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Portland
Posts: 4,946
Quote:
Originally Posted by imoldernu View Post
Very close... Thank you for your expertise.
The 'abstracted brain' concept has been around in fiction for a long time. I just thought you might get a kick out of seeing it referenced in a tale from over 80 years ago.

Quote:
As the science of the brain proceeds with exponentially productive results, we're able to stimulate and interact... and yes, in most cases, to control not only the five senses but the deeper parts of the brain... imagination, creativity, storage, and even learning and logic.
The pace at which direct brain-computer interfaces (BCI) and neuroprosthetics are being developed has picked up recently. This is a very promising area for assisting folks with failing bodies but fully functioning brains (and minds).
M Paquette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2013, 04:17 PM   #12
Gone but not forgotten
imoldernu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Peru
Posts: 6,335
Quote:
Originally Posted by M Paquette View Post
The pace at which direct brain-computer interfaces (BCI) and neuroprosthetics are being developed has picked up recently. This is a very promising area for assisting folks with failing bodies but fully functioning brains (and minds).
Yes!...
We start with Stephen Hawking, and go on from there...
To one degree or another all 5 senses have been enervated... and the cerebral cortex mapped. If we can think it, it will happen.
__________________
If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion.
--Dalai Lama XIV
imoldernu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2013, 09:06 PM   #13
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
haha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hooverville
Posts: 22,983
Quote:
Originally Posted by imoldernu View Post
Yes!...
We start with Stephen Hawking, and go on from there...
To one degree or another all 5 senses have been enervated... and the cerebral cortex mapped. If we can think it, it will happen.
I am confused. Do you really mean enervated? If so , it really sounds less and less attractive every time you tell more, and it started out at a pretty low level of attraction for me.


Enervate - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
__________________
"As a general rule, the more dangerous or inappropriate a conversation, the more interesting it is."-Scott Adams
haha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2013, 10:52 AM   #14
Gone but not forgotten
imoldernu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Peru
Posts: 6,335
Quote:
Originally Posted by haha View Post
I am confused. Do you really mean enervated? If so , it really sounds less and less attractive every time you tell more, and it started out at a pretty low level of attraction for me.


Enervate - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
OMG!



Had temproarily put aside my first person treatise on AZ..., trying to ascribe the errors to typing mistakes brought on by the polyneuropathy...
Now I know better... You can only guess at how hurtful it is to realize that it's no longer a misstep, or an error born of haste... but now...
a time of acceptance... The pride in literacy is now gone...

I am reminded of my favorite, but saddest poem...

Quote:
On His Blindness

When I consider how my light is spent
Ere half my days in this dark world and wide,
And that one talent which is death to hide
Lodg'd with me useless, though my soul more bent
To serve therewith my Maker, and present
My true account, lest he returning chide,
"Doth God exact day-labour, light denied?"
I fondly ask. But Patience, to prevent
That murmur, soon replies: "God doth not need
Either man's work or his own gifts: who best
Bear his mild yoke, they serve him best. His state
Is kingly; thousands at his bidding speed
And post o'er land and ocean without rest:
They also serve who only stand and wait."
~John Milton
This too shall pass. Back to work on the treatise.
__________________
If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion.
--Dalai Lama XIV
imoldernu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2013, 11:44 AM   #15
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Diego
Posts: 144
One of the very few books I didn't donate to the library earlier this year: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...5.Gray_Matters

The fact that it was first published by Playboy shouldn't deter potential readers!

"WWIII has devastated most of the world, but life is still good for the lucky & rich few hundred who had their brains preserved in an automated conservatory. Altho they have no bodies to move around with, they're free to mentally visit any of the other residents, & engage in all the emotional, intellectual & pseudo-sexual congress that they desire."
Jackanory is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2013, 12:16 PM   #16
Gone but not forgotten
imoldernu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Peru
Posts: 6,335
ooo...ooo...!!! Thanks

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackanory View Post
One of the very few books I didn't donate to the library earlier this year: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...5.Gray_Matters

The fact that it was first published by Playboy shouldn't deter potential readers!

"WWIII has devastated most of the world, but life is still good for the lucky & rich few hundred who had their brains preserved in an automated conservatory. Altho they have no bodies to move around with, they're free to mentally visit any of the other residents, & engage in all the emotional, intellectual & pseudo-sexual congress that they desire."
Despite finding myself late to the party, am excited to find a kindred spirit.

the rest of the excerpt:
Quote:
This is the story of a projection of life in the 25th century. People have been reduced to Cerebromorphs--disembodied brains stored in tanks in huge Depositories & wired up to computers, memory files & mammoth study programmes. In the tanks they're supposed to pass thru various levels of understanding before they are liberated, implanted in hatchery-nurtured perfect bodies & sent back into a pastoral paradise flourishing outside. The novel follows a small group of these brains: that of a 12-year-old boy killed in an air crash; an ex-movie queen, fastidious, rich & lethal; a former Nigerian sculptor & the last of the great humanists.
Hadn't thought about adding scientology to the package, but a nice touch...
Now, as to other possibilities... I considered cryogenics, though I don't think that will work... Gotta have a "live one"....

We have to something about pollution, though, if the pastoral paradise thingy is going to work.
__________________
If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion.
--Dalai Lama XIV
imoldernu is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Quick Links

 
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:26 PM.
 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.