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Old 11-04-2021, 09:13 AM   #61
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A friend of my wife is a little bit of a feminist...I once challenged her to name just one TV show where the woman was portrayed as dumb while her male partner was portrayed as strong and intelligent and she was unable to name even a single show. I then said to her, "now imagine if it was the other way around."
The Good Place, and it’s definitely “current” https://www.nbc.com/the-good-place
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Old 11-04-2021, 09:16 AM   #62
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The Good Place, and it’s definitely “current” https://www.nbc.com/the-good-place
Never heard of it, but if so, that's just one out of how many?

The exception proves the rule...
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Old 11-04-2021, 09:19 AM   #63
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Never heard of it, but if so, that's just one out of how many?

The exception proves the rule...
You only asked for one, and you got it.
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You only asked for one, and you got it.
Fair enough
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Old 11-04-2021, 09:33 AM   #65
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When I was a kid, I asked my Mother why all the TV shows portrayed the children as being smarter than the adults, and the moms were always smarter than the dads. She said that it was to make people laugh.

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A friend of my wife is a little bit of a feminist...I once challenged her to name just one TV show where the woman was portrayed as dumb while her male partner was portrayed as strong and intelligent and she was unable to name even a single show. I then said to her, "now imagine if it was the other way around."
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I just want to add that I think it’s fine if people choose to be on committees and boards during retirement, regardless of gender.
I also think it’s fine if a person just chooses to hang out and just do what they want, regardless of gender.
So, I don’t find it funny to show one way or the other as being the preferred way.
I don’t rain on people’s travel plans even though I’m not that keen on traveling. Especially not if it involves camping!
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I think there is a little more to this.

The first woman is working on a Masters, and the second is active in the ACLU, Meals on Wheels, and a book club. While all of this has a social component (what doesn't?) there is a deliberate portrayal of the women as being involved in "larger matters" than then men. The men are unable to articulate on even the most basic level how they are spending their days - I infer from that that the men are absorbed in leisure activities while the women are becoming or regaining their sense of being involved in the greater society.
I'm with this thesis, and also what Chuckanut says. Both seem to apply IMO to what Trudeau is suggesting. But I also don't agree wholeheartedly with the premise. Maybe back in the day it was more true, but don't think it is so much anymore. As a kid we had family friends where the engineer husband retired after a career with Chevron. He seemed at a loss after that, and died of a heart attack a few years later. His widow meanwhile was active in all sorts of things, including teaching yoga, went on to remarry an old flame and lived to about 90. But that was 35 years ago. Times change.

Garry Trudeau is married to Jane Pauley, who wrote a book on "reimagining the rest of your life" aimed at retiree-age people. Maybe the cartoon idea sprung from a conversation they had, who knows.
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I have no issue with the cartoon as I was more than happy to fade into insignificance in retirement - and leave stress behind.

Yeah, me too... I am not one to be easily offended anyway. I'm sooo happy to have retired before the covid mess.



The men in this cartoon are saying there are not enough hours in the day... because they are enjoying life and that speeds up the perception of time passing.
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In defense of Music Lover, more often than not, in the end, Gracie and Lucy got the last laugh. AND it was 50-70 years ago!
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Yeah, me too... I am not one to be easily offended anyway. I'm sooo happy to have retired before the covid mess.



The men in this cartoon are saying there are not enough hours in the day... because they are enjoying life and that speeds up the perception of time passing.

It doesn’t offend me but that doesn’t mean it isn’t incredibly sexist.
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My feelings exactly ...
+1 I was in IT for 30 some years and I have opened my laptop maybe 10 times in the last 5 years.
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You asked, so: It's another one of those not so subtle jabs at old men. His inspiration? His desire to be relevant again.
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The men are dumpy and sloppy, while the women look like they are competing (there's that word again) for Mrs. Thin and Fashionable Seventy-something.
Also, doesn't Trudeau realize not all retired men are white? It's an outrage, he needs to be cancelled!
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I personally always preferred Dilbert.
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stopped being relevant decades ago, had to search to confirm proof of life. xkcd is where proper satire and humor migrated, though by now it might have moved on to babylon bee.
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I personally always preferred Dilbert.
Dilbert was one of the best. If Doonesbury ever made a funny cartoon it was probably accidental....but that's just my opinion.
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Do you know why men die before their spouses ?

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Dilbert was one of the best. If Doonesbury ever made a funny cartoon it was probably accidental....but that's just my opinion.

Agreed!
I never found doonesbury funny.
But Dilbert often made me lol for real.
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Dilbert was one of the best. If Doonesbury ever made a funny cartoon it was probably accidental....but that's just my opinion.
Back at Megacorp, there was a Doonesbury fan who I had to interact with quite often. He prominently displayed every Doonesbury cartoon at his desk. Of all the cartoons I saw, I laughed at exactly one. I disagreed with the (apparent) point of it, but it was funny to me. BUT, just the one. YMMV
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I can identify wit that cartoon. Here at CCRC I have to control what I enroll in just to make sure I have no conflicts with previously committed activities. Life IS good!
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