Golf Talk Tuesdays 2015-2020

[Midpack]

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Originally Posted by Music Lover For the vast majority of players, spending the money on lessons instead of new clubs will be far more beneficial. A new swing with your old clubs will almost always be better than your old swing with new clubs.

+1. Unless your clubs are 20+ years old, or somehow grossly misfitted (not that likely), lessons from a qualified golf pro/teacher will do more to improve your game. Equipment tech changes are incremental, not nearly as revolutionary as the marketing language suggests.

[RetireBy90]

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Originally Posted by Midpack +1. Unless your clubs are 20+ years old, or somehow grossly misfitted (not that likely), lessons from a qualified golf pro/teacher will do more to improve your game. Equipment tech changes are incremental, not nearly as revolutionary as the marketing language suggests.

My game is beyond help by pro or rookie. At least with some new clubs or even a new glove I'll look better. Mostly I find my game is mostly dependent on my attitude. Once I have lost any hope of a decent score I quit trying so hard and then do much better. By then it is too late but I almost always do better on last 3 or 4 holes.

[golfnut]

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Originally Posted by Music Lover For the vast majority of players, spending the money on lessons instead of new clubs will be far more beneficial. A new swing with your old clubs will almost always be better than your old swing with new clubs.

Could not agree more.


Also, why do most golfers balk at spending relatively big bucks on a putter but lay down big bucks on a driver? When the driver is used maybe 14 times and the putter over 30 times during a round.

[Music Lover]

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Originally Posted by golfnut Could not agree more. Also, why do most golfers balk at spending relatively big bucks on a putter but lay down big bucks on a driver? When the driver is used maybe 14 times and the putter over 30 times during a round.

I've played some courses where the driver is rarely used...or at most 5 or 6 times.

Many amateurs don't need to hit a driver on a 320 par 4 when a hybrid or 3 or 5 wood will leave them a short iron to the green. My basic rule of thumb is to get inside the 150 marker off the tee...with exceptions/adjustments to that rule being made for fairway width, wind, water, etc.

[pb4uski]

I tend to hit the ball low and have a lot of trouble hitting a driver... hence, I don't even have a driver. I hit my 3-wood or 5-wood as far or farther than most of the guys I play with.

I am most comfortable inside 150 yards. Even on par 5's if I have a long (200+ yard) second shot then I lay up to about 80-100 yards and trust my short game.

[HadEnuff]

I collect the found balls in a pocket on my golf bag. When I don't feel like buying or hitting an entire bucket before a round, I'll knock 5 or 6 drivers out on the range.

[Huston55]

I hit my Callaway Fusion driver well (75% FIRs) but, not far (~220 yds). I also have an old Cleveland Launcher 2-hybrid (18*) that I love & hit well (~180 yds). BUT, I can’t hit my Callaway (or, evidently any) 3-wood very well at all; also had problems with my previous TM 3-wood. I even have my current 3-wood adjusted to a 4-wood & still can’t hit it well so, it stays in the bag most of the time.

Any thoughts on how to fill the gap btwn my Driver & 2-hybrid? I seem to like the hybrid head shape; is there a stronger hybrid that will fill the gap? Or, another head shape?

[Big_Hitter]

I dented my rballz stage 2 driver during the tournament last week and got a new one on ebay, xstiff stock shaft

picked up this wilson driver as a potential replacement

https://www.budgetgolf.com/wilson-st...on-driver.html

[pb4uski]

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Originally Posted by Huston55 I hit my Callaway Fusion driver well (75% FIRs) but, not far (~220 yds). I also have an old Cleveland Launcher 2-hybrid (18*) that I love & hit well (~180 yds). BUT, I can’t hit my Callaway (or, evidently any) 3-wood very well at all; also had problems with my previous TM 3-wood. I even have my current 3-wood adjusted to a 4-wood & still can’t hit it well so, it stays in the bag most of the time. Any thoughts on how to fill the gap btwn my Driver & 2-hybrid? I seem to like the hybrid head shape; is there a stronger hybrid that will fill the gap? Or, another head shape?

Choke up on the driver or hit the 2-hybrid further back in your stance? I do that often when I am between clubs. Might work if you are comfortable hitting the driver off the deck.

[F4mandolin]

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Originally Posted by Huston55 I hit my Callaway Fusion driver well (75% FIRs) but, not far (~220 yds). I also have an old Cleveland Launcher 2-hybrid (18*) that I love & hit well (~180 yds). BUT, I can’t hit my Callaway (or, evidently any) 3-wood very well at all; also had problems with my previous TM 3-wood. I even have my current 3-wood adjusted to a 4-wood & still can’t hit it well so, it stays in the bag most of the time. Any thoughts on how to fill the gap btwn my Driver & 2-hybrid? I seem to like the hybrid head shape; is there a stronger hybrid that will fill the gap? Or, another head shape?

I've gotten rid of my fairway wood. 9 degree driver then 2 Mizuno hybrids (16+19) that are adjustable 2 degree either way. 16 adjusted to 14 (although I moved it up to 15 this morning) and I left the 19 at 19. The course is really dry right now and if you are hitting down with the hybrid I have no trouble hitting the 14 hybrid low and running. During the winter I will move the 14 up to 16 and the 19 up to 20/21. I prefer keeping the ball a little lower.

[Popeye]

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Originally Posted by Huston55 I hit my Callaway Fusion driver well (75% FIRs) but, not far (~220 yds). I also have an old Cleveland Launcher 2-hybrid (18*) that I love & hit well (~180 yds). BUT, I can’t hit my Callaway (or, evidently any) 3-wood very well at all; also had problems with my previous TM 3-wood. I even have my current 3-wood adjusted to a 4-wood & still can’t hit it well so, it stays in the bag most of the time. Any thoughts on how to fill the gap btwn my Driver & 2-hybrid? I seem to like the hybrid head shape; is there a stronger hybrid that will fill the gap? Or, another head shape?

I think I have an old Cleveland 15.5* hybrid. I’ll dig it out and check it. Didn’t really work for me.

[Huston55]

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Originally Posted by F4mandolin I've gotten rid of my fairway wood. 9 degree driver then 2 Mizuno hybrids (16+19) that are adjustable 2 degree either way. 16 adjusted to 14 (although I moved it up to 15 this morning) and I left the 19 at 19. The course is really dry right now and if you are hitting down with the hybrid I have no trouble hitting the 14 hybrid low and running. During the winter I will move the 14 up to 16 and the 19 up to 20/21. I prefer keeping the ball a little lower.

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Originally Posted by Popeye I think I have an old Cleveland 15.5* hybrid. I’ll dig it out and check it. Didn’t really work for me.

Thx much. Club generation/name would be good; pics would be fantastic.

[Midpack]

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Originally Posted by golfnut Also, why do most golfers balk at spending relatively big bucks on a putter but lay down big bucks on a driver? When the driver is used maybe 14 times and the putter over 30 times during a round.

I don’t disagree, but I’d argue that argument overstates putting. If you have 36 putts, about half of them should be tap ins, where almost any putter would do. In any event, lots of putts are very short, so you may hit your driver and putter about the same number of challenging strokes. FWIW

[F4mandolin]

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Originally Posted by Huston55 Thx much. Club generation/name would be good; pics would be fantastic.

My 19 hybrid is a Mizuno JPX900 series which I liked but when I got rid of my 5 wood and replaced it with the 16 degree I couldn't easily find another 900 series. The new models are called CLK. There are plenty of reviews on YouTube on pretty well any golf club. My driver is a Ping G400 SFT and before I bought the 16 degree (which in my head I just think of it as a 14 degree) the pro shop let me take the 3 wood SFT out on a round. When I hit it well it definitely went further.....it also went bad further as well. I hit the hybrids much more consistently so I chose to go that direction.

This YouTube review is on the CLK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL6qvgST0L4

, but there are other great clubs out there. If you are spending a decent amount of money, I don't think there are too many clubs out there that aren't good anymore.....just too competitive.

[Popeye]

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Originally Posted by Huston55 Thx much. Club generation/name would be good; pics would be fantastic.

I bought this used a couple of years back. Here are some pics.

Cleveland Mashie 15.5* loft, regular flex shaft

[F4mandolin]

Drove over to American Golf in York this morning......I spent a lot of money. 4-W with Recoil shafts in the new Ping i500 and 2 new Ping stealth wedges 52+60. They don't come out until 31 July so I won't see them for at least a week.

[Big_Hitter]

I damaged my RBZ stage 2 driver two weeks ago in a golf tournament (not anger related I just dropped it accidentally) so I got a Wilson Staff Triton Driver XStiff 10.5 for $140 shipped

https://www.budgetgolf.com/wilson-st...on-driver.html

I haven't even messed with the settings on it but it goes straight every time even when I put a crappy swing on it - can't wait to start messing with the settings!

[pb4uski]

Huh?............. if it goes straight every time even when you put a crappy swing on it why would you even touch the settings?

[Big_Hitter]

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Originally Posted by pb4uski Huh?............. if it goes straight every time even when you put a crappy swing on it why would you even touch the settings?

so it goes even straighter?

[pb4uski]

Of course ... why didn't I think of that!