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06-18-2020, 02:08 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,178
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I've just calculated. Wow, it's only 26 years of full-time employment. I should consider myself lucky that I could accumulate enough to be comfortable considering the number of years.
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06-18-2020, 02:13 PM
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#82
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: North Scottsdale
Posts: 1,545
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28 years full time. Two companies. Five different owners in eight years at the first company. Four different owners in twenty years at second company. Two pensions....yea!
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FIRE'D in July 2009 at 51...Never look back!
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06-18-2020, 02:15 PM
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#83
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Tucson
Posts: 134
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Worked 17 years. Dishwasher then installed outboard motors on new boats for a year after high school. Then worked 16 years full time while buying, paying for, and fixing up mobile home parks. Retired at 34yo in 2000 after selling all rentals/parks and carrying mortgages on them. 54yo now.
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06-18-2020, 02:24 PM
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#84
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Happytown
Posts: 203
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Started at age 7 picking fruits and veggies (I remember getting 5 cents per bushel of potatoes). 2 years of co-op work during engineering studies then 38 years after graduation with only 1 week ever between jobs. I generally finished 1 job on Friday and then started the next Monday.
I think that was enough, hence no real desire to do part time after retiring last year at 62.
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06-18-2020, 02:45 PM
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#85
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 182
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27 years with mega corp then I was out at 49...
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FIREd 2012 at Age 49
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06-18-2020, 03:06 PM
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#86
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: An island off the coast of Florida. (Ok - if you really need to know it's Vero Beach)
Posts: 633
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Joined the US Navy at 18 to learn how to split Uranium. Got a B.S. in Nuclear Engineering and worked for the same company (and same power station) until age 58 splitting atoms for carbon free energy. Considering the intervening 4 years for the undergraduate weren't working - 36 years for the old career.
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DW and I are 62/62. 100% equities 31 years. FIRE'd August 2019. Non-cola pension cashed out Dec 2022 before segmentation rates reduced balance - rolled to MM fund, max SS for DH and DW at FRA. Mega retiree health available. IRA rollover from 401k Jan 2020 for NUA treatment. LTCG for 3 years. Next few years will be IRA cash withdrawals or until Stock Market recovers. AA 33% stocks, 67% MM and T-Bills. Rising equity glidepath.
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06-18-2020, 03:17 PM
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#87
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Conroe, Texas
Posts: 18,645
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I started out at 5 years old selling lumps of coal door to door in eastern Pennsylvania in 1948.......
OK, maybe not that bad, but,
Grew up poor, left home at 17, worked "here and there" until I got drafted (Joined AF) at age 20.
After military, went to college and got an engineering degree via GI Bill ($222/month!). Had a part time job, ate ramen and soup.
Went to work for a Fortune 500 industrial company and later got an MBA at night. Made Plant Manager at 38+ year old. Then went to work for Big Oil. After Big Oil puked employees in the mid 1980's, I went into consulting and formed my own engineering consulting company and worked oil & gas for the next 20+ years.
So, to recap:
Selling coal chunks, paper route, painting houses, time on a garbage truck, inseminating cows, retail clerk, auto mechanic, etc - 5 years
Military (made it with no body scars, holes, etc) - 4 years
Industry/Big Oil - 12 years
Sub S Corp - 25 years
This is all give or take a year or so.
Total - 46 years (ugh!)
But it was a hoot!!
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06-18-2020, 03:34 PM
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#88
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: St. Charles
Posts: 3,903
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokrken
I agree with the caveat that completing an MBA while working is very beneficial. At least it was for me.
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My experience as an engineer at a megacorp. Advanced degree in my field would have provided a very nominal pay bump (5%? 10%?). BUT, getting an MBA was quite beneficial to those that did (and the company paid for it). Of course, they had to move into management and business development.
I never went the MBA route, but still worked my way into higher levels. The ones that did, took a fast track to the higher level. Most did well, though some did crash and burn.
But I am sure there are other industries, or a change in career, where the lost income pays off in the long run, as outlined by Gumby.
So, it just depends.
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06-18-2020, 08:09 PM
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#89
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 80
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How long did you work?
I make it about 36 years of paid work although only 30 of them for anything approaching decent money.
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06-18-2020, 08:19 PM
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#90
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 441
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4 years during college, then 25 for career.
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06-18-2020, 08:26 PM
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#91
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 524
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27 years of education, 25 years of full-time (and more) work.
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06-18-2020, 08:50 PM
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#92
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Rural Alabama
Posts: 1,353
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Lots of part time jobs but 25 years full time after grad school, and 2 years part time. 24 of the 25 years with the same company.
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Projected retirement--2020 at age 48 (done!)
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06-18-2020, 09:59 PM
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#93
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 987
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39 years career engineer in the same field (utility process control), 27 with the same utility broken in to two different time periods (but paid for 28 years for 38 years of max SS earnings) with 5 total employers. My experience was that leaving for a better offer, then coming back when needed, bumped the salary more than staying even with an advanced degree, if you weren’t tapped for advancement in to management. Retired at 61, with those 27 years, the renegotiated salary gave me a higher pension than friends that stayed with the same company for 35 years (since only the highest consecutive 5 years of the last 10 are used for the calculation). Worked part time during school since 16, full time all summers. Done with it, never worry about money or saving for retirement again.
I am also very surprised at how many worked 35+ years on this forum! I thought I was a FIRE slacker but looks like I only put in a bit more than average # of work years.
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06-19-2020, 04:14 AM
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#94
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: An island off the coast of Florida. (Ok - if you really need to know it's Vero Beach)
Posts: 633
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Respondents include a fair number of engineers working 35 years and going to night school to earn an MBA.
Clearly, we need a pole to sort out this bias.
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DW and I are 62/62. 100% equities 31 years. FIRE'd August 2019. Non-cola pension cashed out Dec 2022 before segmentation rates reduced balance - rolled to MM fund, max SS for DH and DW at FRA. Mega retiree health available. IRA rollover from 401k Jan 2020 for NUA treatment. LTCG for 3 years. Next few years will be IRA cash withdrawals or until Stock Market recovers. AA 33% stocks, 67% MM and T-Bills. Rising equity glidepath.
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06-19-2020, 04:28 AM
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#95
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Michigan
Posts: 4,962
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35.75 years
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"The mountains are calling, and I must go." John Muir
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06-19-2020, 05:32 AM
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#96
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 770
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40.5 years full-time
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06-19-2020, 06:12 AM
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#97
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 181
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41 yrs in healthcare.
Internship then FT till retirement in same mega system.
It was glorious until it wasnt.
Collected lump sum pension and retiree health coverage last year at 62.
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06-19-2020, 06:54 AM
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#98
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 176
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Started working in summer during high school. Worked in my chosen profession in the summers during undergrad schooling to get some experience in my field on my resume when I graduated. Did part time w*rk during the school year doing whatever minimum wage job earned enough for beer and pizza.
Started full time work after college but also went back and pursued my MBA while working. When I FIRE it will be 34 years of post college full time employment and 42 years of working some type of j*b. Same employer, Uncle Sam, but a variety of agencies both military and civilian. Starting to get OMY due to the pandemic and the inability to travel so maybe it will be 35 years full time, we'll see.
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06-19-2020, 07:23 AM
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#99
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,594
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Starting the count when I graduated from graduate school and began working full time continuously for MegaCorp, the number would be 22 years.
A big part of this was that MegaCorp froze all future pension accruals and suspended retirement health care spending.
I could do the math and realized that working the original 30 years that I had planned no longer was worth it. Watching a few retirement eligible coworkers die while still employed also had something to do with it.
-gauss
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06-19-2020, 07:29 AM
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#100
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,594
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stepford
Probably a topic for another thread, but what all these responses are showing me is that, at least as far as ER is concerned, getting an advanced degree can be a mistake.
I started work when I was almost 28. While the PhD helped with salary, friends of mine who'd started work with a BS at 21-22 were already making more than I was - and had substantial savings and their first homes as well. Several of them retired before I did at 55. While many individual factors enter into this, the advantages of starting work early also seem to be reflected in many answers in this thread.
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I have heard, in the past, that a Masters Degree, either business or technical is the sweet spot. Going for a PhD should mean that you really want to work in a PhD sort of job.
-gauss
"who had 1 year towards a PhD at one point"
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