Pick-up Truck Purchase

[bltkmt]

Downshifting when going down hills might be a Toyota thing. My '15 Corolla does the same on steeper hills. I appreciate the feature.

My 4Runner does it as well. I like it.

 

[RetireBy90]

Just today read a quick note on CNBC that Ford was going to release a new small pickup next year

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/03/for...ll-maverick-pickup.html?&qsearchterm=maverick

 

[wmackey]

Still running around in a 2013 Ram. I've got about 130,000 on it and so far it just keeps running. We have two other cars, but I still prefer the truck if it is just me.

 

[pb4uski]

I just happened to look at the value of my truck that I paid $36k for out-the-doot in June 2016 (5 years ago) and has 29k miles. Extra clean retail (which it is) is a tad more than I paid for it. No if I only had a reasonably priced replacement available.

 

[Winemaker]

The automatic trans in Taco will downshift by itself when going downhill? Is that a common feature? I wish my car does that but instead I have to move the gearshift to manual mode and set to 3rd max to avoid using the brake to slow the car down.

I am in the camp that gravity should allow my truck to go down a hill, I shouldn't have to use the gas pedal. But it's the hard downshift that I really dislike.

 

[beernutzbob]

I love my 2015 Ford F-150 Platinum with 3.5L ecoboost engine that I bought used in 2019. It is a beast for towing with the max tow package and a 36 gallon tank. I can't believe I waited so long to buy my first truck but I'll never not have one again.

I bought a $60 bed extender to haul 16 foot pieces of lumber. Try that with an SUV.

 

[pb4uski]

The automatic trans in Taco will downshift by itself when going downhill? Is that a common feature? I wish my car does that but instead I have to move the gearshift to manual mode and set to 3rd max to avoid using the brake to slow the car down.

My GMC Canyon will occasionally do a hard down shift while in Drive, but more often than not to downshift to slow rather than brake I have to move the and shifter to manual mode and press the downshift button. For my Canyon all of the downshifts are pretty smooth but the downshift from 2 to 1 is really hard.

I much prefer my Subaru Outback's paddle shifters.... 80k miles and the original brake pads are still in good shape according to my mechanic.

 

[teetee]

I think all cars with automatic transmission will auto downshift while going uphill to get more torque.

Only some transmissions will auto downshift if the throttle is not open (no gas pedal pressed) but the car speed sensor reading indicates the car speed keeps increasing (downhill driving). I think it is a good feature if the auto gear change is not harsh.

I wonder if my car (a 2015 Mazda) did not have such feature because it could damage the transmission from downshifting going downhill. With manual mode, I set the max shift to 3 while my car is still on level ground and at low speed before it enters the downslope. Maybe Toyota's Aisin transmission are designed to handle such maneuver.

 

[Out of Steam]

Just today read a quick note on CNBC that Ford was going to release a new small pickup next year

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/03/for...ll-maverick-pickup.html?&qsearchterm=maverick

I plan on driving both this and the Hyundai Santa Cruz when they come out, though I almost certainly won't buy until next year. Tired of trying to use a sedan to haul stuff, and don't like smelling dirty hiking gear in the passenger compartment. Would use a bed cover of some sort to keep the rain (and prying eyes) off.

https://www.caranddriver.com/hyundai/santa-cruz

 

[ExFlyBoy5]

I wonder about Ford using the name "Maverick"...certainly someone in their marketing/naming department remembers the *original* Maverick. Of course it's not as bad as the "Pinto"

 

[ls99]

The automatic trans in Taco will downshift by itself when going downhill? Is that a common feature? I wish my car does that but instead I have to move the gearshift to manual mode and set to 3rd max to avoid using the brake to slow the car down.

So does the 16 Colorado. I drive a lot of moutain ranges. Learned to go to the manually selectable range, thus preempting automatic downshift to 2nd at 40 mph for example.
In that mode the tranny will stay in selected gear, yet work as automatic as coming to a stop.
My Z71 has all the bells and whistles except built in garage door opener and heated steering wheel. Like the locking differential, worked great in the last few winters.

 

[RetireBy90]

WSJ today reported GM was “able to pull some semiconductor delivery into second quarter to help lift production and ship vehicles that had been waylaid in parking lots nearby it’s U.S. factories.”
So we will have more GM trucks and SUVs shortly it seems.

 

[Out of Steam]

I wonder about Ford using the name "Maverick"...certainly someone in their marketing/naming department remembers the *original* Maverick. Of course it's not as bad as the "Pinto"

Most people who remember the '70s Maverick are at least neutral about it. It was an car of its era, with the handling and quality (rust!) issues all there, but the straight 6 engines were solid, and the 3 speed automatics didn't cause problems.

 

[RetireBy90]

Most people who remember the '70s Maverick are at least neutral about it. It was an car of its era, with the handling and quality (rust!) issues all there, but the straight 6 engines were solid, and the 3 speed automatics didn't cause problems.

To me Maverick brings to mind the TV show. Not outstanding in any measure but comfortable. After the announcement or reveal, sounds like this will be the same. Uni-body construction, 40MPG with hybrid engine, doesn't sound like is meant as a work truck, in fact the note I read compared it to the Subaru Baja and Honda Edgeline. Only comes in 4 door, so a family truck that can do occasional haul couple bags of mulch ?

 

[Out of Steam]

To me Maverick brings to mind the TV show. Not outstanding in any measure but comfortable. After the announcement or reveal, sounds like this will be the same. Uni-body construction, 40MPG with hybrid engine, doesn't sound like is meant as a work truck, in fact the note I read compared it to the Subaru Baja and Honda Edgeline. Only comes in 4 door, so a family truck that can do occasional haul couple bags of mulch ?

Pretty much what I need, to haul dirty camping gear under a bed cover, some brush to the transfer station, or a dishwasher or dresser with the cover folded. I've tended to tear up the rear cargo area of wagons/SUVs I've owned in the past.

 

[Steeler75]

Most people who remember the '70s Maverick are at least neutral about it. It was an car of its era, with the handling and quality (rust!) issues all there, but the straight 6 engines were solid, and the 3 speed automatics didn't cause problems.

I liked my 70 Maverick I drove in college- 6 cylinder three on the tree. Got great gas mileage. Became a three on the floor after i broke the shifter off of the tree. Cheaper to cut a hole in the floor board an toss in a new shifter than pay for a new column one.

Unfortunately the location of the gears were backwards on the floor, ie. normal 1st gear on the floor was reverse. Would have loved to see someone try to steal it and drive away!

 

[travelover]

I plan on driving both this and the Hyundai Santa Cruz when they come out, though I almost certainly won't buy until next year. ......

I was impressed with the specs on the new Maverick pickup. It is a standard hybrid, comes with two different powertrains and can tow up to 4000 pounds. It has 120 volt AC plugs and 12 volt junctions built in for DIYers to add electrical accessories. Sounds like a fun truck. https://www.at.ford.com/en/homepage...021/6/maverick-reveal.html?cid=BOC-2021-06-08

 

[Bamaman]

I was looking online today at the new.Maverick.

Looks like Ford hit a home run with it, especially at the mid $20's properly equipped.

Nice enough for most buyers. And it's low enough for an old retiree like me to get in without having to climb.

But with a 2020 F150 and a 2003 F250 diesel, I'm good.to go with what I have.

 

[steelyman]

I was looking online today at the new.Maverick.

Looks like Ford hit a home run with it, especially at the mid $20's properly equipped.

Nice enough for most buyers. And it's low enough for an old retiree like me to get in without having to climb.

But with a 2020 F150 and a 2003 F250 diesel, I'm good.to go with what I have.

It looks like something that’s worth paying attention to. I’ll be wanting to replace an SUV that’s pretty long in the tooth (but very trusty since purchased new and well maintained) in the next few years.

 

[Out of Steam]

I was looking online today at the new. Maverick.

Looks like Ford hit a home run with it, especially at the mid $20's properly equipped.

Nice enough for most buyers. And it's low enough for an old retiree like me to get in without having to climb.

But with a 2020 F150 and a 2003 F250 diesel, I'm good.to go with what I have.

When I configured it the way I'd buy it, middle trim hybrid with "Luxury Package" to get a power driver's seat and heated front seats, I ended up at about $26K. I'd get a bed cover, but would keep it out of the purchase transaction.

 

[Breedlove]

Kind of funny , I bought a new Crosstrek in February . Last weekend the dealer had a customer appreciation day . We went , the poor dealer had 60 new Subarus on his lot and a very few used ones . I talked with my salesman he said they have 130 cars on order don’t know when they will get them. He said all they are getting at the auction are high mileage cars. He said every rental car company is trying to buy cars and are holding what cars they have for more miles. He said during covid rental car agency’s got rid of lots of their cars and this chip problem has stopped everything.

 

[pb4uski]

I just happened to look at the value of my truck that I paid $36k for out-the-doot in June 2016 (5 years ago) and has 29k miles. Extra clean retail (which it is) is a tad more than I paid for it. No if I only had a reasonably priced replacement available.

When I bought my 2016 GMC Canyon I really wanted a Honda Ridgeline but the Ridgeline was brand new so very richly priced... even for Honda. I had to trade our old 2006 Chevy Colorado because the frame was rusted out and it wouldn't pass inspection.

So for giggles given that the 2016 Canyon's retail price is about what I paid for it I'm considering selling it and using the proceeds and probably $2-3k of cash to buy a new Ridgeline like I wanted to begin with. Even if I trade it I think I'd only pay ~$7k plus my trade for a new Ridgeline... picking up 30k miles and 5 model years for $7k seems like a pretty good deal to me. What do ya think?

 

[REWahoo]

With today's crazy new vehicle market, have you checked the availability of a new Ridgeline and what you'd actually have to pay to buy it, knowing some vehicles are selling above sticker price?

 

[pb4uski]

Yes. According to truecar, the model I want is selling for about $500 over sticker, but I would squeeze them down. If they don't want to play ball my current truck only has 30k miles so I'm fine with keeping it.

IOW, if I can't get a good deal I'll not do a deal.

 

[teetee]

When I configured it the way I'd buy it, middle trim hybrid with "Luxury Package" to get a power driver's seat and heated front seats, I ended up at about $26K. I'd get a bed cover, but would keep it out of the purchase transaction.

The bed is short though. I would buy the base model for a truck camper setup. A truck camper home with combined 30mpg fuel economy with the vehicle price under 22k is a great setup: small enough to drive/maneuver on unfamiliar roads. Inexpensive purchase price with no high tech sensors and electronics to cost money to repair translates into low overall ownership cost. A unibody design improves the quality of both ride and handling.