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Old 12-26-2019, 12:49 PM   #41
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...Oh and a PSA:

If you are over 50 and doing the "i haven't seen a doc in X years but I'm healthy and don't want to have needless blah blah...." - that's a great way to ruin your early retirement plans: Colon, prostate, breast - these cancers start showing up but when found and treated early have great long term survival rates. But if not, found too late, folks tend to exit before they have to worry when to start taking SS.

So get in there, get your check ups!
On the positive side, one does not have to worry about SORR, market anomalies outside of FIRECalc historical performance, survivability of SS, not even the treat of Alzheimer in old age.
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Old 12-26-2019, 08:33 PM   #42
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Ladies begin to fall apart at age 50. Then they fall apart again around 70.

Well, maybe if they're married My own health took a dip around that time Then I got a divorce. Doing better since (now 58).
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Old 12-26-2019, 09:00 PM   #43
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...Oh and a PSA:

If you are over 50 and doing the "i haven't seen a doc in X years but I'm healthy and don't want to have needless blah blah...." - that's a great way to ruin your early retirement plans...

+1

I would add to the PSA and say if you are 40 or older you should be going for a yearly checkup, including specialists. I had some conditions (such as an enlarged heart) that were detected and resolved early and avoid medical issues that would have limited my life at age 60 (and might have prevented me from reaching it).

At 61 the primary things I try to do are to be careful with my weight, keep active and moving, and spend time with people who enjoy life despite the negative situations circumstances that inevitably occur. These provide me with physical and mental health. Tomorrow is not guaranteed but these things are what help me enjoy today.
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I have a close friend that's 68 years old, and looks like she's 38. Helps to be petite (short).

I asked her what her secret to not aging like the rest of us. She said to keep young friends in your life, and especially to keep young lovers.
Amen, works for me. 66 Year old with a 38 year old Wife, Been to the doctor once in 16 years for a physical and he said keep doing what you are doing! Lungs where clear but said if you want some advice on your health, I would suggest you quit smoking and drink less Whiskey.
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As Khan used to say, yet more proof that I must be a man.

My 50's were great.

60's, some issues, particularly arthritis.

(I think you may be buying into the notion that menopause is some kind of ailment).

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Ladies begin to fall apart at age 50. Then they fall apart again around 70.
Men start to fall apart at age 60.

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Old 12-27-2019, 05:25 PM   #46
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I have a close friend that's 68 years old, and looks like she's 38. Helps to be petite (short).

I asked her what her secret to not aging like the rest of us. She said to keep young friends in your life, and especially to keep young lovers.
Is it possible that the cause and effect get reversed in your friend's explanation? Is it more likely that she has young lovers because she looks young, and not the other way around?

But your story reminds me of the following quote. Your friend can change the gender in this quote.

"You are as young as the woman you feel." -- Groucho Marx
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Old 12-27-2019, 07:43 PM   #47
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I hiked 430 miles in 2018 and looks like I'll hit around 480 this year (with our two dogs)


I have been playing racquetball for 43 years, and still play mostly twice a week for 2 hours at a time.


Lost 24 lbs since FIRE in Jan '17 and am within 5 lbs of my high school weight now.


I am not denying myself any food (but I generally eat fairly healthy).

I feel pain in some part of my body every hour of every day, but I don't let it hinder me.

I will not stop as long as I can move. My body has long ago learned that.


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She said to keep young friends in your life, and especially to keep young lovers.
I couldn't get DW to agree. Nor would any young person consider me. So there's that.

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Good idea since the Medicare annual "wellness exam" is not that thorough except for the blood work. I always request a PSA test with the blood work too.
I've got all my blood test results in a spreadsheet and just order my own. I don't need a doctor to day "yep same as last year", I can see that. But a +1 to getting every dang screening test out there that has an actionable treatment.

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Actually there is quite a bit of good data that being slightly overweight when you're over 70 is associated with longer life. Just a generality and only one factor to consider among many, but I could see some justification for her statement.
Check your causality direction on that one. Sicker people tend to get quite thin, then don't last very long.
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Target is having a final year end blow out sale tomorrow. I cant go. Having a year end blow out myself----------prep for monday colonoscopy
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During the warm months I'm pretty active cutting grass/yardwork at home,3 rentals, and DM's. Once it gets cold , I head to gym, but a cortisone shot to the knee, and another in elbow has me sidelined for awhile, I'm 61. I guess I started falling apart when I turned 60.
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...Oh and a PSA:

If you are over 50 and doing the "i haven't seen a doc in X years but I'm healthy and don't want to have needless blah blah...." - that's a great way to ruin your early retirement plans: Colon, prostate, breast - these cancers start showing up but when found and treated early have great long term survival rates. But if not, found too late, folks tend to exit before they have to worry when to start taking SS.

So get in there, get your check ups!
Yeah, the female relative I buried earlier this year AFAIK never had a mammogram, never felt sick, never went to the doctor.

Even though her own mother had had a double mastectomy around age 60.

Not surprisingly, my relative died from terminal breast cancer...lasted about 4 months after diagnosis.
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Check your causality direction on that one. Sicker people tend to get quite thin, then don't last very long.
Who said anything about causality?
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Check your causality direction on that one. Sicker people tend to get quite thin, then don't last very long.>>
<<Who said anything about causality?>>

I will buy that the weight correlates with some other health factor. Making this up but like maybe over 70 the added weight means the person is social, taken care of by family, happier, while the skinnier people are not eating well and depressed.

I just don't see how indiscriminately eating anything to gain weight to shift a BMI metric will cause good health.
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I just don't see how indiscriminately eating anything to gain weight to shift a BMI metric will cause good health.
No one has ever said anything like that.
What I posted simply referred to the demonstrated fact that a longer lifespan has been associated with those who are slightly overweight, as opposed to those who are not (either normal/underweight or very overweight).

No causation implied, just some data to look at.
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No one has ever said anything like that.
What I posted simply referred to the demonstrated fact that a longer lifespan has been associated with those who are slightly overweight, as opposed to those who are not (either normal/underweight or very overweight).

No causation implied, just some data to look at.
Agree definitely on the very overweight side. It is rare to see someone in their 80's who is is very overweight.
Not sure so much about thin folks. I see many fairly thin folks who at least appear to be in their 80's.
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I'm female, and I ran my first marathon at age 52. Now 58, and I just did a rim-to-river-to-rim one-day hike in the Grand Canyon. No health issues. Still haven't fallen apart.
Did that myself a few years ago and definitely one of the most memorable days of my life.

Currently not sure my ankle, damaged by years of cutting sports, could hold up to it.

But otherwise can't complain too much about health.

-back MRI (revealed problems with my fusion from 38 years ago but manageable)
-One ER visit (turned out was nothing)
-Nuclear stress test (flying colors)
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-Dental stuff, broke crown
-Colonoscopy (flying colors)

For new year looking forward to:

-New ankle x-rays (heading toward possible ankle replacement)
-Consult with orthopedist for ankle and back

I am really a lot healthier than all that sounds
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Last healthcare $ of the year spent, Colonoscopy today. super easy 12:30 check in, back out the door at 2.

I asked for a free upgrade to liposuction on the love handles.

Prep was not that bad.

One polyp removed and diverticulitis ( no symptoms).

Now that I revealed my innermost secrets , doc cleared me for 5 years.
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Had my last one at 62 and got a 10 year reprieve. Next time I may get to poop in a bag and mail it in.
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