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01-30-2018, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Meadbh
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If true, the irony is that the guy gets OFFed over $150k when he is worth $5 billion! It reminds me of some other billionaires that are excessively litigious.
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02-01-2018, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Helen
It really saddened me. I saw a photo of their house and it didn't have a fence around it. I had the feeling thet were very grounded people.
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Well, I wouldn't go that far.
Barry Sherman was a combative and extremely litigious person, who revelled in bitter, hard-fought lawsuits. That is not a healthy or admirable approach/attitude.
He also had personal views that some might well feel were not especially well-grounded:
- “Free will is an illusion”
- “Power and wealth bring no obligation”
- "We are here with no ‘meaning’ or ‘purpose’ to our lives”
At the time of his death, he was under active investigation for improper lobbying.
Obviously, none of the above justifies murder, if that's what actually occurred.
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02-01-2018, 06:36 AM
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Any billionaire is publicly known (there'a no hiding a billion dollar net worth), so even if they have the disposition of Mr. Rogers they're always at risk.
Look at Branson, who has to buy private islands or isolated retreats deep in the desert, away from any populated areas, to be able to relax.
OTOH, you can live very well, discreetly, on 7 figures (less with a generous pension) here.
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02-03-2018, 07:15 AM
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Branson is a bad example here .. no small part of his business success comes from actively pursuing the camera.
There are unknown billionaires, I'm sure, and also quite a few who are not known by most people. By definition, it is hard to come up with examples.
Still, a few lesser known people: The person or persons who developed Bitcoin, the founder of WeChat, the founder of the Medaillon fund and several of his friends, a few EuroMillions winners etc ..
Do you know who founded Lego, and would you recognize him in the street? Same for the founder of the company that built part of the Palm Islands, he's virtually unknown outside his home town.
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02-03-2018, 01:27 PM
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Investigative report by The Fifth Estate....
The cousin must be a person of interest. Possibly the prime suspect.
https://youtu.be/ov7SCivAo5A
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02-04-2018, 08:01 PM
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The Fifth Estate
Thanks for the link.
Bizarre.
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02-05-2018, 07:17 AM
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I'm reminded of a news story in the early 90's that actually put me off ever buying an expensive car. A local couple getting into a new car (forget the make) were followed to their home by thugs who hid outside till the lights were off, then broke in, shot the couple in their bed, robbed the home and stole the car (it's how they were caught). Gave me nightmares. Literally drove beaters and cheap cars for decades. Even though our current car is nice, it's not a status make and is seen on the roads in droves.
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02-05-2018, 09:50 AM
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Perhaps if the unfortunate couple in the above case were even richer, they would be OK with live-in guards and a sophisticated alarm system.
Of course, they would have to be somewhat paranoid to spend money for personal protection. In this thread, we talk earlier about rich people who do not take any extra measure. Being followed by an armed guard would take a lot of fun out of your activities, so I can understand why not every billionaire does it.
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02-05-2018, 09:56 AM
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This news does ring a bell. Most of us on this forum are (I believe) self-made next door millionaires by savings & investing. For most of us, such news is un-related however you never know. If you are driving a Mercedes or BMW or other luxury cars living in a mediocre area of the town it can bring some unwanted attention.
But yes I agree that we all need to be more cognizant of the fact that crimes everywhere are on the rise. Unfortunately people with more means are usually the target.
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02-05-2018, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by retired1
This news does ring a bell. Most of us on this forum are (I believe) self-made next door millionaires by savings & investing. For most of us, such news is un-related however you never know. If you are driving a Mercedes or BMW or other luxury cars living in a mediocre area of the town it can bring some unwanted attention.
But yes I agree that we all need to be more cognizant of the fact that crimes everywhere are on the rise. Unfortunately people with more means are usually the target.
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I don't think that "we all need to be more cognizant of the fact that crimes everywhere are on the rise" for the very simple reason that it is not true. There are some agendas out there that promote the idea you mentioned but these agendas have nothing to do with reality. 5 facts about crime in the U.S. | Pew Research Center
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02-05-2018, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ejman
I don't think that "we all need to be more cognizant of the fact that crimes everywhere are on the rise" for the very simple reason that it is not true. There are some agendas out there that promote the idea you mentioned but these agendas have nothing to do with reality. 5 facts about crime in the U.S. | Pew Research Center
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+1.
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02-05-2018, 11:37 AM
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The impression of rising anarchy and mayhem across the U.S. is likely the result of publicity attached to the appalling mass shootings, plus the shocking nature of school shootings (which, while not really common, were hardly heard of before 1999).
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Originally Posted by ejman
I don't think that "we all need to be more cognizant of the fact that crimes everywhere are on the rise" for the very simple reason that it is not true. There are some agendas out there that promote the idea you mentioned but these agendas have nothing to do with reality. 5 facts about crime in the U.S. | Pew Research Center
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02-05-2018, 12:08 PM
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I doubt many of us are hiring guards (not me certainly!), but if you do then hiring the right people is very very important.
I have relatives who live in NOTAFIRSTWORLDCOUNTRY and had a guard at their house. The guard apparently didn't think he was being paid enough and invited and assisted some of his friends to pull a home invasion. It was an awful experience.
So educate yourself and make sure you are working with the right people.
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02-05-2018, 02:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ejman
I don't think that "we all need to be more cognizant of the fact that crimes everywhere are on the rise" for the very simple reason that it is not true. There are some agendas out there that promote the idea you mentioned, but these agendas have nothing to do with reality.
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+2.
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Originally Posted by Amethyst
The shocking nature of school shootings (which, while not really common, were hardly heard of before 1999).
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I guess it depends upon how we define "school". IIRC, Charles Whitman was the seminal mass shooter: at the University of Texas, way back in 1966.
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02-05-2018, 02:20 PM
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Yes. But it happened in a university. Now they do it in elementary schools. It's very sad.
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02-05-2018, 02:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by retired1
... If you are driving a Mercedes or BMW or other luxury cars living in a mediocre area of the town it can bring some unwanted attention...
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Then, it's better to live in a place where they have Rolls-Royce and Bentleys. Driving a Mercedes, you would be thought of as a tailor or hairdresser just visiting a client.
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02-05-2018, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NW-Bound
Then, it's better to live in a place where they have Rolls-Royce and Bentleys. Driving a Mercedes, you would be thought of as a tailor or hairdresser just visiting a client.
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Agree. At our Arizona place our BMW’s are commonplace. Rolls, Bentley’s, Ferrari’s, Lambo’s needed to even get a glance. I’m safe here.
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02-05-2018, 03:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Milton
+2.
I guess it depends upon how we define "school". IIRC, Charles Whitman was the seminal mass shooter: at the University of Texas, way back in 1966.
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Whackos persist. Worst US school massacre was in 1927. 38 kids killed, and the killer failed to detonate hundreds of pounds of extra explosives to kill yet more.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...cre-180963355/
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02-05-2018, 04:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NW-Bound
Then, it's better to live in a place where they have Rolls-Royce and Bentleys. Driving a Mercedes, you would be thought of as a tailor or hairdresser just visiting a client.
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Barry Sherman drove a 1999 Ford Mustang. Honey Sherman drove a Lexus.
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02-05-2018, 11:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mpeirce
I doubt many of us are hiring guards (not me certainly!), but if you do then hiring the right people is very very important.
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If you've seen the movie, "I, Tonya" then you know this is true.
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