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Old 07-02-2019, 12:23 PM   #3021
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I have been struggling to make the images I see in Photoshop on my Samsung monitor closely match the photo prints from my Canon Pixma 100 printer.
I have the Canon Pixma Pro 100 printer and used a Photomunki to calibrate the screen and printer, and I'm happy with the results. What type of display monitor do you have? Are you sure it will display all the colors properly?
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Old 07-06-2019, 10:57 AM   #3022
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I just bought a Viltrox EF-M2 II adapter and speed booster that allows me to use my Canon lenses on my Panasonic Lumix 4K M43 camera. I tested it the other day at the Los Angeles Zoo with a Canon EF 70-200 F/4L (98-280mm F/2.8 on the Panasonic). The results were amazing. Here is a sample of the 4K video that I recorded.

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I just bought a new Lumix camera, and the online instruction manual is an imposing 315 pages. I don't know if it's possible to learn everything that these cameras are capable of doing. Now it's time to practice, practice, practice.
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I just bought a Viltrox EF-M2 II adapter and speed booster that allows me to use my Canon lenses on my Panasonic Lumix 4K M43 camera. I tested it the other day at the Los Angeles Zoo with a Canon EF 70-200 F/4L (98-280mm F/2.8 on the Panasonic). The results were amazing. Here is a sample of the 4K video that I recorded.

Wow! Just Wow!
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I just bought a new Lumix camera, and the online instruction manual is an imposing 315 pages. I don't know if it's possible to learn everything that these cameras are capable of doing. Now it's time to practice, practice, practice.
I never really bothered to read the entire manual. I just turned it on and started using it. I refer to the manual for help only. I only use it to shoot video and time lapse only. I don't shoot too many still photos any more. It replaced my camcorder and Canon DSLR. I wanted to record 4K video but Canon didn't offer too many options at the time I bought my Lumix. Canon is still behind Panasonic, Sony, and Fuji when it comes to 4K recording. Plus my Canon was becoming too bulky as a travel camera. The M43 system is much better for video recording and is easy to mount on a small motorized gimbal.
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Thanks... It also performed well with my other Canon "L" series lenses. I wish my Canon DSLR was half as good as the Panasonic Lumix. I was going to sell these lenses on Craigslist but now I'll keep them and just sell the Canon DSLR.
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I too, very impress with the Viltrox EF-M2 speed booster for my Canon M50.
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I just bought a Viltrox EF-M2 II adapter and speed booster that allows me to use my Canon lenses on my Panasonic Lumix 4K M43 camera. I tested it the other day at the Los Angeles Zoo with a Canon EF 70-200 F/4L (98-280mm F/2.8 on the Panasonic). The results were amazing. Here is a sample of the 4K video that I recorded.

Very Nice!

ETA - As are the rest of your you tube videos. I subscribed. Cant wait to watch the rest of them!
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I just bought a Viltrox EF-M2 II adapter and speed booster that allows me to use my Canon lenses on my Panasonic Lumix 4K M43 camera. I tested it the other day at the Los Angeles Zoo with a Canon EF 70-200 F/4L (98-280mm F/2.8 on the Panasonic). The results were amazing. Here is a sample of the 4K video that I recorded.

Wow - that is amazing. Nat Geo quality!
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ETA - As are the rest of your you tube videos. I subscribed. Cant wait to watch the rest of them!
Thanks... So are yours. It's one of my early retirement hobbies. I posted a bunch of videos during the past two weeks of our time in Switzerland from April through June 2019. Going forward I'm going to focus on the composition and editing and really make the videos professional quality. I just got a new Leica 12-60mm lens (24-120mm on the Lumix) as my general purpose lens which with the Canon lenses, will significantly improve the quality of my videos going forward.
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I have been struggling to make the images I see in Photoshop on my Samsung monitor closely match the photo prints from my Canon Pixma 100 printer.

I spent the last several days working with a screen reader (Photomunki) and have had some success but still not right in the areas of Red and in some cases the over all Brightness of printed images as compared to my monitor.

Any tips on doing this? I have loaded all new ink cartridges, used color test images in printing for comparison, and am now at a loss.

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How familiar are you with "color managed workflow? This is all the steps needed to get the proper color from the camera to the computer, to the monitor and to the printer. The screen calibrator takes care of the monitor. What are you doing to handle the printer?

With the monitor (presumably/probably under control), you can attack the printer. Several areas, in this order:

1) Get/make and install an ICC color profile for your printer and paper combination. You can get these from the paper maker's website. In general, these are pretty decent. I'd try this before making my own. (Making used to require a special hardware device; I haven't done this in years.) Either way, this is your printer calibration.

2) Learn about "soft proofing" in photoshop. For our purposes, soft proofing simulates how your digital photo file will print out on a given printer and paper combination. This is where you pick the ICC color profile you obtained in step 1. You can also choose rendering intent (perceptual, relative, saturation) and simulate paper color/black. After selecting the ICC profile, this is just trial and error against actual paper prints.

2a) Important: remember to toggle soft proofing "on" every time you load a file and verify the correct ICC profile. It's not remembered/sticky.

2b) Turn on soft proofing typically reduces contrast and saturation, ie makes photos look like crap. So, you have to readjust your colors and saturation in the photoshop file. Lesson: turn on soft proofing before tweaking colors/contrast for printing.

3) In photoshop print dialog, select "photoshop controls colors" and again pick your ICC profile used in steps 1 and 2. Also, in the same dialog (buried in a drop down), find printer settings and specify the paper type (photo paper something, NOT plain paper).

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**Need to do both steps 2 and 3 each time you print. Only doing one of the steps will make it very difficult/impossible to match on screen to paper print. Specifically, only doing step 3 (print with icc profile) will produce prints with lower contrast/saturation than what's seen on screen, a most common frustration.

* If after all the above, screen and paper are "somewhat close", but not "almost exact", then look into the color space you are using every step. I shoot RAW (NEF for Nikon) files in my Canon DSLR, set to Adobe colorspace (default is probably jpeg, srgb color space). I make sure photoshop keeps the original Adobe color space. The icc profile I made was done in Adobe color space too. I found that if I printed a file from srgb color space in photoshop (not Adobe color space) then the reds were off paper vs monitor. So, I just stuck with Abobe color space everywhere, although I'll convert to srgb for website jpegs.


I just noticed that Canon has some sort of software that interfaces with photoshop that is supposed to ease the color managed workflow. No experience either way. The above system though is the old school way that I've used personally and commercially since the early 2000's. It allows reasonable control over any printer with virtually any paper.


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Good comments from FreeBear .

But, I am going to disagree a bit on #3 if you print from a Mac and have certain Epson printers. Based upon a recommendation from Ctein, I gave my Epson printer control of the color. It does much better than letting Photoshop or LightRoom control the colors. Granted, most people don't have the combination, but if you do, then you are in colour management's version of Hog Heaven.

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Loving this thread...

I gave up the SLR years ago (still question that decision a few times a week) for the cameras I knew we would have on us during travel... the phone and the Gopro, but still love the art and the process of capturing our lives and those people/places we stumble upon along the way!

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Good comments from FreeBear .

But, I am going to disagree a bit on #3 if you print from a Mac and have certain Epson printers. Based upon a recommendation from Ctein, I gave my Epson printer control of the color. It does much better than letting Photoshop or LightRoom control the colors. Granted, most people don't have the combination, but if you do, then you are in colour management's version of Hog Heaven.

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Hi Chuckanut,


Thanks for the link. I'm also running a Mac (high sierra) and an Epson 3800.

When you take this approach (Mac + Epson + printer color management), does the print look anything like what shows up on the screen? Same, better, worse?? Can you get the print you want in 1-2 shots, or do you have to fool with something?

My goal has always been to make the print as close as possible to the monitor, in large part because I've found it much easier to get any picture to look great, or at least decent, on screen, but rather difficult to get a nice looking print. With my current system (photoshop controls colors, icc workflow), pics needs a lot of massaging to look decent on screen, but if it's right on the monitor, it look almost exactly the same printed. Often, I'm satisfied with the very first hard print, no wasted $$$ photo paper!

It's interesting that your link is from 2015. I suspect the nature of the has been changing, no surprise.

Most of my color management w*rk goes back to the early-mid 2000's as I struggled (along with a tons of other people) to get decent color out of my Epson 2200, both PC and Mac. Most gave up on "printer color management" or jacked with the colors in the print dialog. In the "ancient" era, canned icc profiles from most paper suppliers (yes you Epson!) were worthless. So many folks ordered custom profile by mail (!) from experts like Cathy Stratton, before paper calibration hardware was cheap enough for the average home photog. Bad old days, but still easier than chemical dark room...

Recently, somewhere between Mac Yosemite and High Sierra, my match between print and monitor improved from "close enough" to almost identical, even without me changing anything else. So, perhaps something has changed under the hood; maybe there was a long term bug that got fixed. Now, I don't dare mess with anything!
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