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Old 06-30-2021, 04:02 PM   #101
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I just looked 110K and that is 109997 to many people for me. Lol It is the largest town in MT. They drive like they are crazy.
yes and TERRIBLE traffic!
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Old 06-30-2021, 04:07 PM   #102
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We retired in the Bay Area and stayed here. I grew up in the Midwest in an area with lots of forests, lakes and outdoor activities but didn't like the winters. We moved south for less extreme winters but ended up in a prairie city with few trees, parks and no scenery. The next move we did our research better and found a place that matched what we wanted more for parks, scenery, lakes, beaches, arts and culture and weather, and have been happy with our choice. It has been a fun place to be retired.
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Old 06-30-2021, 04:40 PM   #104
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Retired in Colorado. Promptly moved to ABQ area in New Mexico. During my work career DW and I moved between Colorado, Nevada, Idaho, Montana, Texas, Arizona, South & North Dakota, Yukon, Alaska, Wyoming, California. Our deal was that DW would get to pick the retirement spot. DW went to grade school in NM. So here we are. So far so good. We were here two years before the pandemic.
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Born, raised and worked in Houston "but" by the time I was in my 40's, I knew I didn't want to live there once I retired... There's a lot of reasons why, but crowds, taxes and crime were near the top of my list.
We knew 10 years before we retired that we wouldn't stay in suburban DC beyond our working years. Crime wasn't a significant issue, but cost of living and overall quality of life were.
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The quality of living in Houston has fallen off about as fast as the population has grown. When I was born there in the early 50's, the population of the greater Houston metro area was about 700k... Now it's about 7m... Or said another way, it's population has grown by ~10 times in just ~70 years... The problems grew about the same rate, maybe faster. And folks wonder why I don't want to see anyone else move to Texas.

Now I will admit, it was a great place to work for top dollar and benefits... And it still is.... But that is a heck of a price to pay! And that's about the only good thing I can say about the city these days.
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It is just prettier here in Nova in both our opinions (both Texans) and we love the mild four-season climate, rolling hills and, yes, the sign ordinances!
Yes, I miss sign ordinances. The commercial strips in our Virginia region are pretty depressing without them.

More generally, many of the DC suburbs are very attractive. But the nicer ones are stunningly expensive unless they are 40-50 miles out.
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I have lived in 5 states and moved to Reno for a job 24 years ago. I love the mild 4 seasons and would never leave. People are moving in like crazy which has increased our COL.
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Yes, I miss sign ordinances. The commercial strips in our Virginia region are pretty depressing without them.

More generally, many of the DC suburbs are very attractive. But the nicer ones are stunningly expensive unless they are 40-50 miles out.
Out of Steam where did you guys retire to?
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Suburban Richmond. I had lived here in the 1980s.
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Suburban Richmond. I had lived here in the 1980s.
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...They drive like they are crazy.
i guess you've never spent time in the Bay Area of California. we've been here since May 15th settling my late BIL's affairs. our welcome to the Golden State was a motorcyclist splitting the lanes...riding between the lanes...on the 101 with traffic moving at or above the posted limit. and it's 'sposed to be legal! nobody stops at stop signs, we see red light runners every day (not on the yellow...on the red). speed limits? ha! i thought chicago drivers were nuts but these folks are textbook nuts. on the positive side they are generally very polite. they'll make room for you when changing lanes or at entrance ramps.
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^ that would be to much for me. Lol I just could not live in a city, I would feel closed in and to many people.
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Old 07-02-2021, 06:17 AM   #114
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And that's about the only good thing I can say about the city these days.
I flew in and out of Houston for my W$%#k both when I lived in SoCAL and then when I was in NE. Fla. Spent about 1 week in every 4 for 5 years there.

Now come on, you must admit, the Sushi in Houston is/was to die for. That is the ONLY thing I miss, and would never live there, never in a month of Sundays. In fact before I Early Retired and had just moved Florida (Anticipating my early retirement), my company offered me a very lucrative (One of your points) move there. I replied very quickly, "It is never going to happen". So I continued commuting till I retired.
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I liked Houston back in the 1990's, to the point where I was hoping for a job offer there. The job turned out to be in New Orleans which is how I got here.

Sounds like Houston has changed! Maybe I lucked out.

When I was w*rking, I had to fly to Houston every month or two to meet with various oil company folks. Liked the people, but hated having to travel for work. Luckily I found a motel that I liked and at my request our administrative assistant would put me there every time. So, I didn't really see much of Houston; I saw the motel room and the meeting room.
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Noooooo! Lol! I'm a half day from there thank God! Lol
The best summer of my life was spent in Mt. The Fourth of July 1976 was in Red Lodge, went to a rodeo watched the fireworks, had 2 inches of snow fall at the campground, backpacked to Hell Roaring Plateau. Spent the rest of the summer in Helena. Good Good Times.
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Retired in place here in the central valley of CA where I've been for 35 years. Know it, like it and the mortgage is long paid off.
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The best summer of my life was spent in Mt. The Fourth of July 1976 was in Red Lodge, went to a rodeo watched the fireworks, had 2 inches of snow fall at the campground, backpacked to Hell Roaring Plateau. Spent the rest of the summer in Helena. Good Good Times.
Montana probably had the lowest population back in 1976 I suppose.
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We bought our "retirement home" back in 2011 while still working - in CO, about 30 minutes west of Colorado Springs. We're early in our retirement and will probably stay here, but DW has worsening osteoarthritis so we might need to eventually look for someplace with a warmer climate, flatter terrain, and less dramatic seasonal changes. But for anyone without mobility issues, who loves the outdoors, and doesn't mind some snow in the winter this area is tough to beat.
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We wanted to move to Springfield, Missouri. We liked how low key and peaceful it seems in that out-of-the-way Ozarks town. People seemed so friendly and civilized, and seem to share our old-time American values. Our dream of that town was sort of similar to Mayberry RFD, although in reality it is probably not like that. But that's what we were thinking at the time and that appeals to us. Also there are no hurricanes there and there appears to be less violent crime there, than in New Orleans.

While New Orleans is not expensive, we loved that Springfield is even less expensive, especially for housing. However, now we both have paid off homes so the cost of housing no longer seems like such a burden. Also, moving is expensive too, and we didn't have to pay for a move.

My sister lives on Springfield and is a prof. At the university there. I don’t see the Mayberry RFD semblance, but it is a nice enough LCOL place with a university and a couple regional hospitals. It has a decent airport also. Weather is not too bad either
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