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07-17-2015, 07:04 PM
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The 55" TV that I repaired by replacing a couple of dozen bad electrolytic capacitors failed again about 4 months ago, after working for more than a year. I first described the repair here and here.
Last time it was used, it turned itself off after displaying a message about possibly overheating due to restrictive airflow. So, I unplugged it, and it has been sitting since. We do not watch much TV, and even the smaller 32" set in our bedroom has not been turned on for several months. But lacking of things to do inside the home as I try to stay out of the heat, I pulled it out trying to see whether I should fix it or to throw it away.
Now, the thing would not turn on.
When plugged in, this set will go through a boot procedure, not unlike a PC booting. It takes about 1 min, and a green LED on the front panel flashes during the procedure. After the light blinked about 11 times, the internal processor apparently crashed, and the LED turned off. After a second or two, the process started all over again.
Suspecting a power supply problem, I put a voltmeter on the main 15V rail, and watched it sagged right about the time the boot was aborted. How in the world am I going to isolate the culprit component among the thousand parts in this TV?
To make the story shorter, it suffices to say that researching the Web led me to a tiny 10uF capacitor that sits on the Vcc pin of the main switching regulator IC. What happened was that when the processor powered up the main signal boards during the boot process, the power demand surged, and the weak capacitor prevented the regulator IC from doing its job to increase the power to keep up with the demand. The voltage sagged, causing the processor to crash. The whole thing repeated every 10 seconds.
So, after removing the board, unsoldering the 10uF bad cap and seeing that its value being now only 2uF as measured with a capacitance meter, I replaced it with a new one. The thing is working like new now.
See photo of the set sitting on a pair of work stands. This time, I only had to take out the power supply, and not the more gory processor boards and their zillions of interconnect cables.
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07-18-2015, 10:40 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bossier City
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Yesterday I replaced the ballast in the flourescent light in our kitchen.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Early Retirement Forum mobile app
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07-19-2015, 08:16 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Conroe, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NW-Bound
The 55" TV that I repaired by replacing a couple of dozen bad electrolytic capacitors failed again about 4 months ago, after working for more than a year. I first described the repair here and here.
Last time it was used, it turned itself off after displaying a message about possibly overheating due to restrictive airflow. So, I unplugged it, and it has been sitting since. We do not watch much TV, and even the smaller 32" set in our bedroom has not been turned on for several months. But lacking of things to do inside the home as I try to stay out of the heat, I pulled it out trying to see whether I should fix it or to throw it away.
Now, the thing would not turn on.
When plugged in, this set will go through a boot procedure, not unlike a PC booting. It takes about 1 min, and a green LED on the front panel flashes during the procedure. After the light blinked about 11 times, the internal processor apparently crashed, and the LED turned off. After a second or two, the process started all over again.
Suspecting a power supply problem, I put a voltmeter on the main 15V rail, and watched it sagged right about the time the boot was aborted. How in the world am I going to isolate the culprit component among the thousand parts in this TV?
To make the story shorter, it suffices to say that researching the Web led me to a tiny 10uF capacitor that sits on the Vcc pin of the main switching regulator IC. What happened was that when the processor powered up the main signal boards during the boot process, the power demand surged, and the weak capacitor prevented the regulator IC from doing its job to increase the power to keep up with the demand. The voltage sagged, causing the processor to crash. The whole thing repeated every 10 seconds.
So, after removing the board, unsoldering the 10uF bad cap and seeing that its value being now only 2uF as measured with a capacitance meter, I replaced it with a new one. The thing is working like new now.
See photo of the set sitting on a pair of work stands. This time, I only had to take out the power supply, and not the more gory processor boards and their zillions of interconnect cables.
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Excellent job!
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07-19-2015, 08:30 AM
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#924
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It goes to show how far a cheapskate frugal guy will go when trying to repair something before throwing it away.
PS. The previous automatic shutdown due to internal overheating has not recurred. I suspect it was because the cooling fans were not running at full speed due to the weak supply voltage. The digital circuits were still working for a while because the main 15V from the power supply is reduced further down to 3.3V at each board with local regulators, which could compensate until the voltage sag became too much.
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07-19-2015, 12:23 PM
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#925
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: East Nowhere, 43N Latitude, NY
Posts: 9,037
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My house gutters, downspouts and Gutter Helmets are done as of July 15.
No more leaking gutters. They carefully removed and re-installed the existing roof heating wires right into the new gutters/helmets and the valley where the main roof and porch roof connect. No more ice dams ! I placed flat stones under each downspout to disperse the outflow.
I asked the gutter guys to save whatever was still usable for my gardening buddy. He collects rainwater in barrels for his ground garden.
The gunk that had collected in the old gutters was amazing. I wish my neighbor would do something about the line of half dead trees between our properties. It drops all sorts of seeds and tiny leaves with every spring storm.
I no longer have to worry about that clogging up my gutters.
Next up...trimming back the grassed-over edges and re-sealing the driveway. I will contract that out for sure. I ain't 20 anymore.
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07-28-2015, 05:46 PM
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Fixed my DW's beloved Braun coffee maker. It suddenly just went dead, so our thought was to simply buy another as it is getting old. Alas, they now only make that model in 220 volts, for overseas applications.
I opened it up to find that a previous repair with a new heater element had a poor solder joint that has melted and pulled away. I reconnected it and it is good as new.
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07-30-2015, 12:59 PM
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 731
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Cleared out the aeration hosing to the dishwasher.
It started to bubble water up the aeration cap on the sink lip making a watery mess the last couple of weeks.
I watched a youtube video on an easy 2 step repair
1) remove the silver aeration cap, pinch the sides of the plastic assembly underneath to release the cap, then place a paper towel tube over the top, seal with your hand and blow. I felt a 'plop' then no resistance.
Thought I was done, but the next load still leaked out.
The vid did say the 2nd hose from the aeration fixture to the disposal may also be clogged.
2) loosen hose clamp underneath sink to aeration fixture, pull hose off, use paper towel tube and blow - much harder effort to clear the hose. No cleaner rod or scraping needed.
Done and done.
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07-31-2015, 11:24 AM
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#928
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Voorheesville, NY
Posts: 206
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Replaced the wheels on a sticky sliding screen door. Tip: Get the correct one - don't even bother trying to substitute. Lowe's has them all on their web site - just get the one that looks like your broken one. And if you have a choice between metal or plastic wheels - get the metal.
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08-05-2015, 04:03 PM
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Aug 2014
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Left megacorp for the last day as an employee yesterday. Got home and had to go fix an AC unit first thing at a rental. Welded the trailer this morning. Cleared a clogged line on the mister for our home AC unit this morning as well. At least the repairs aren't stacking up since I can fix them as they come...
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08-05-2015, 07:43 PM
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#930
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Where I am, mister spray to cool an AC means that the condenser fins will get clogged up with mineral in a matter of months. The water is that hard. Even mister sprays to cool outdoor living areas like patios will result in white chalky residue coating everything. Arghhh! I guess one can use distilled water, but that is not economical.
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08-05-2015, 09:06 PM
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#931
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Location: Northern IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NW-Bound
Where I am, mister spray to cool an AC means that the condenser fins will get clogged up with mineral in a matter of months. The water is that hard. Even mister sprays to cool outdoor living areas like patios will result in white chalky residue coating everything. Arghhh! I guess one can use distilled water, but that is not economical.
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A standard ion-exchange water softener would replace the minerals with salt (NaCl). Salt water is corrosive, but at least it is very soluble and could be rinsed away.
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08-05-2015, 09:24 PM
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#932
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Salt on aluminum doesn't sound too good to me. I wonder if RO water would be better.
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"Old age is the most unexpected of all things that happen to a man" -- Leon Trotsky (1879-1940)
"Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities Can Make You Commit Atrocities" - Voltaire (1694-1778)
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08-05-2015, 10:08 PM
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Aug 2014
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Mister wasn't a problem on my last unit (as far as I know and according to the tech who replaced it). Old unit failed when the controller left the compressor constantly on. I have seen buildup in pipes from older (50+ years) buildings. For an AC the most damage was done when someone's dog used it as a location to mark his territory. Urine will absolutely eat the cooling fins...
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08-06-2015, 07:11 AM
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#934
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Location: Northern IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NW-Bound
Salt on aluminum doesn't sound too good to me. I wonder if RO water would be better.
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RO would be better, but at some cost. I don't think the salt concentrations in softened water are high enough to be a problem if some kind of rinse is performed occasionally. My softened well water is ~ 700 ppm (either before or after the softener, the minerals are exchanged for salt). No corrosion on anything. That's 0.07%, versus something like 3.5% for sea water?
With constant evaporation, the salt will build up over time. But that should easily rinse away, salt is very soluble. That's why you are not supposed to use softened water for potted plants. The salt levels in the water are not a problem for a plant, but as the water evaporates the salt is left behind with each watering and will eventually build up to harmful concentrations. Not a problem for cut flowers that only get a few additions or replacements of water.
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08-06-2015, 11:37 AM
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Aug 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NW-Bound
The 55" TV that I repaired by replacing a couple of dozen bad electrolytic capacitors failed again about 4 months ago, after working for more than a year. I first described the repair here and here.
Last time it was used, it turned itself off after displaying a message about possibly overheating due to restrictive airflow. So, I unplugged it, and it has been sitting since. We do not watch much TV, and even the smaller 32" set in our bedroom has not been turned on for several months. But lacking of things to do inside the home as I try to stay out of the heat, I pulled it out trying to see whether I should fix it or to throw it away.
Now, the thing would not turn on.
When plugged in, this set will go through a boot procedure, not unlike a PC booting. It takes about 1 min, and a green LED on the front panel flashes during the procedure. After the light blinked about 11 times, the internal processor apparently crashed, and the LED turned off. After a second or two, the process started all over again.
Suspecting a power supply problem, I put a voltmeter on the main 15V rail, and watched it sagged right about the time the boot was aborted. How in the world am I going to isolate the culprit component among the thousand parts in this TV?
To make the story shorter, it suffices to say that researching the Web led me to a tiny 10uF capacitor that sits on the Vcc pin of the main switching regulator IC. What happened was that when the processor powered up the main signal boards during the boot process, the power demand surged, and the weak capacitor prevented the regulator IC from doing its job to increase the power to keep up with the demand. The voltage sagged, causing the processor to crash. The whole thing repeated every 10 seconds.
So, after removing the board, unsoldering the 10uF bad cap and seeing that its value being now only 2uF as measured with a capacitance meter, I replaced it with a new one. The thing is working like new now.
See photo of the set sitting on a pair of work stands. This time, I only had to take out the power supply, and not the more gory processor boards and their zillions of interconnect cables.
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Might want to consider replacing it with a better cap! They are rated for lifetime, ripple current, temperature range, voltage. Better specs on any of these--but especially the first 3-- would likely result in a part that lasts much longer.
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08-06-2015, 11:39 AM
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#936
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Yes. All replaced caps are the best, read most expensive, that Digikey has to offer. High-temperature good stuff from Japan. My labor is not cheap.
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"Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities Can Make You Commit Atrocities" - Voltaire (1694-1778)
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08-06-2015, 04:18 PM
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08-06-2015, 04:36 PM
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#938
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Location: Les Bois
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^ nice! that looks like an old one - my buddy had one that was leaking we just pulled it and it runs fine off of city pressure - you must be on irrigation water
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08-06-2015, 05:41 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Northern Illinois
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Hitter
^ nice! that looks like an old one - my buddy had one that was leaking we just pulled it and it runs fine off of city pressure - you must be on irrigation water
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Yep - there's a lake about 10' to the right. I draw lake water through a foot valve in a rock filter. My old pump was leaking like your buddy's - and the leaks only compounded the rust.
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08-06-2015, 05:48 PM
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#940
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by travelover
Fixed my DW's beloved Braun coffee maker. It suddenly just went dead, so our thought was to simply buy another as it is getting old. Alas, they now only make that model in 220 volts, for overseas applications.
I opened it up to find that a previous repair with a new heater element had a poor solder joint that has melted and pulled away. I reconnected it and it is good as new.
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Uh oh, the joint melted and pulled away? That can't be good.
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