Grrrr...

Brew -- If honesty. hard work, and diligence doesn't garner some level of normal consideration... **** them.

It sounds a bit more like the party line one would hear from corporate HR.
 
I taught elementary school for 33 years in Ontario and the # of sick days I took you could count on one hand.

Back in the early seventies we had several on staff that took excessive sick time and we all knew they were dogging it. One missed 38 days and nothing was ever said to her.

I remember going to my Principal and asking for an hour early leave so I could be with Mrs. Zipper and my son at a medical appointment.

The **hole gave me a hard time about it.

My opinion was he a pr*ck to begin with or did the job make him that way?
 
Zipper said:
I remember going to my Principal and asking for an hour early leave so I could be with Mrs. Zipper and my son at a medical appointment.

The **hole gave me a hard time about it.
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Maybe it's human nature. I remember times like that; people are much more empathetic if I take the whole day off than say, if I leave really really sick.:rant:
 
Sorry to hear about that. It does make me appreciate my boss more.
 
Geez, sounds like they don't know how to treat you as a "professional" !

or, you're a problem employee who they're trying to clamp down on ...>:D

as long as the work gets done, we are pretty flexible.

i think skillful management is sorely underdeveloped and appreciated in this world...
 
Hey, you once said something about relocating to the Denver area. Might be a good time to relocate to the area of your dreams.

Good luck!
 
Brewer...mmm. Must be the month or the phase of the moon or air or something. I contacted my retirement specialist and scheduled a meeting for Friday afternoon and then put in for 4 hours off. But discontent is widespread among the employees. I think that upper management's lack of support really bothers those of us most, who never call in sick, always show up etc. Dex might be right, as it seems that the supervisors who are hired, originate from the slacker crowd.
 
Brewer, what percentage of that company's revenue did you bring them last year?

Screw 'em if they can't handle a telecommute... they must've been awfully lonely that day.

Imagine if you had a Bloomberg in your home office!
 
Poundkey said:
I feel your pain. last place I worked decided if you take any time off during the day (whether an hour for a dentist appointment or leaving 15 min. early to pick up a friend at the airport) you were charged 8 hours of vacation time. That was my final straw...
As far as your situation.....it's their loss as far as I'm concerned.
Pullin' for ya Brewer.
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I am surprised someone did not sue them... many companies have found out that docking someone who is salary and not paying OT is bad business.. in the cash payout they have to make to all the people they screwed...
 
Ok, here's the view from your bosses side. What I realized when I became a boss is that bosses are just as human as you are. If you were the boss, and you had a fight with the wife before coming to work, or a tough time in traffic, or no sleep then you might snap at something that you normally wouldn't and for that day, lots of people would think that you were a jerk. Even though they should bite back a little they probably wouldn't because, hey, your the boss. I'm sure there is the odd employee that thinks that I am a jerk from time to time. I'm also fairly sure that those that dislike me on a more regular basis are the ones that I perceive (rightly or wrongly) to be slackers who in the corporate setting look out for themselves and really don't have much loyalty to the company goals. In this case somebody has to go, and it ain't always fair, but it's never the boss.

If your boss doesn't apologize to you for his/her comments, and ideally with an explanation, I think that you should quit. If you have no marketable skill in which you could expect to earn enough to live then you get some training and then get out at your first opportunity. Your boss is either a jerk, and everyone will loathe him on a daily basis, or in his opinion (again, right or wrong) you aren't terribly valuable around there. It might not be your work or attendance that is the issue. He may conciously or subconciously not like your new tattoo, or your haircut, or how you speak, smell, or whatever, and you're not likely to change his mind no matter how hard you work.
 
Brewer, you are right to be pissed off. Based on the information you provided they had no right to chastise you for something that was outside your control. Given that you are in financial services I can't understand their obsession with face time. I agree it's a good idea to start looking. However, do NOT walk out in anger. Start your research, and when you have calmed down, ask your boss how he came to the conclusion that he did. Perhaps he is uninformed, flies off the handle easily, or has had some lingering resentment about you for some time (maybe jealousy of your skills?). Point out that you want to w*rk for an organization that values its employees. This guy may simply not "get" this. Either way, you get more information to reinforce or change your mind about leaving, and your boss (if he is capable of listening) gets a valuable lesson. He might even apologize and treat you better if he knows you are not prepared to take any crap.
 
Not planning on storming out (I have professional ethics, after all), but also not interested in a dialogue with the powers that be. They clearly have an obsesssion with face time and I am equally clearly no longer willing to be meat fed into the mincer for the good of "the firm."

I am pissed off, but I also have taken the opportunity to re-examine what I am doing and why. I came to this place because I knew it would be a fantastic learning opportunity and likely good money. I chose to deal with an ugly commute, long hours and inflexible (but often unspoken) rules because the benefits outweighed the costs. But this job is hard on me, hard on my family, hard on my marriage and hard on my health. It is now no longer worth it as I have learned a ton and become wealthier. Last night I was looking at job listings and it struck me how many good jobs I am perhaps overqualified for that I couldn't hope to be considered for before I came to the present gig. So its time to cash in on my investment and find something easier and with less brutal hours/comute.
 
Brew:

Sometimes it takes a push to get us moving in the direction we need to go. Your last post sounds like you've had that push.

It can be difficult to land a job for which you are overqualified - employers figure you will be bored and wont stay, will not be satisfied with the $$ offered for this lower position, etc. Keep us posted.
 
Sandy said:
...It can be difficult to land a job for which you are overqualified - employers figure you will be bored and wont stay, will not be satisfied with the $$ offered for this lower position, etc. Keep us posted.
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On a resume, its clearly unethical to put things that you've never done.

However, it is OK to leave extra things out. When I respond to a help wanted ad, my resume only has those experiences that demonstrate that I'm capable of doing the job. I may be capable of other things too, but that's not what they're looking for.
 
Had some soothing noises made at me by the head dog. I could probably have a sit-down and get "satisfaction", but I just don't see the point. I am still PO'd, but I also have had the moment of clarity that, for all the positives of this job, it is slowly draining me and it is too hard on my family. If I could telecommute 2 or 3 days a week I would probably stay, but I know that would never be on the table. When I bow out, I suspect I will get a heavy sell to stay, and actually making job interviews is going to be a challenge without setting off the employer tripwires.
 
Zipper said:
I remember going to my Principal and asking for an hour early leave so I could be with Mrs. Zipper and my son at a medical appointment.
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Well, my attendance is nowhere near as good as yours, but I'm not a slacker either. My personal way of handling this when I was still working for MegaCorp was I TOLD my employer when I was taking off. I did not ASK. As far as I'm concerned, my notifying them in advance was a professional courtesy.

Now, if they let me know the timing isn't great, and ask if I can adjust my days some, I'm happy to try to accomodate. I don't throw down the gauntlet if I can't skip work to attend the launch party for the Xbox 360 ;) But if I'm going to a family member's wedding? Yeah, that isn't a negotiable concept.
 
100% agree. This is a great opportunity to work for someone with a lower score on the A-hole meter and shorten that commute at the same time. It's amazing to me that he thinks he can be this way with his staff. You aren't working in a chicken plucking factory, your skill set is expensive to replace. It's just stupid. Good luck.
 
Completely concur with not discussing the issue further-- screw management if they can't figure this out from your effect on the bottom line. They're held to a higher expectation of performance or they wouldn't be worthy of the "management" moniker.

If you're contemplating a move to Denver, my brother is trying to sell his dog-daycare business.

brewer12345 said:
Last night I was looking at job listings and it struck me how many good jobs I am perhaps overqualified for that I couldn't hope to be considered for before I came to the present gig. So its time to cash in on my investment and find something easier and with less brutal hours/comute.
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Is it necessary to search for another job? Or is it better to start your own?

Your investment results have probably been pretty palatable (to say the least) as a side effect of working for a steady paycheck. How much better would they need to be if you had a few extra hours in every workday to [-]homebrew[/-] read even more financial reports and model more cashflows? You've been managing family money and running a virtual hedge fund on this board for free... what if you had paying customers?

Eh, maybe Buffett's still hiring.
 
Frankly, I am burnt enough at the moment taht the thought of all the work and aggravation it would take to start a fund is bewildering.
 
brewer12345 said:
Frankly, I am burnt enough at the moment taht the thought of all the work and aggravation it would take to start a fund is bewildering.
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How about starting a news letter and being an independent financial advisor? I have no idea what you could make but I bet it would be a fun career. I bet you could recruit several from here on the news letter.

I guess the downside is the initial drop in income during the start up period. :-\
 
Dawg52 said:
I guess the downside is the initial drop in income during the start up period. :-\
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That's pretty much the show-stopper. I am the sole bread-winner in the family and the opportunity costs of not working in my chosen profession are quite high.

But it might be a very nice hobby business when I FIRE.

Heck, depending on where I land and what I end up doing, I might end up consulting for my present employer. Guess what my hourly rate would be? >:D
 
brewer12345 said:
Heck, depending on where I land and what I end up doing, I might end up consulting for my present employer. Guess what my hourly rate would be? >:D
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That is the best revenge! DW quit her job to stay home with the kids, but they really needed her expertise (Biotech) so she became a consultant with her former company being the biggest client. She heard the VP raged at her hourly rate...but paid the bill. A year and a half later they are still paying! She's only working 10 hours a week, but it really helps.
 
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