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06-06-2011, 06:06 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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Thursday I met the grand poohbah at a reception after an assembly intended to propound the "benefits" of this massive shtshow. Breathtaking cluelessness was displayed about how to manage and motivate people. I am tempted (heavily) to send an email to the grand poohbah with a few suggestions as I exit, but not sure if the risk is worth it.
Meanwhile, friends I would have labelled as "lifers" here are looking at the grass on the other side of the fence commenting on its appealing shade.
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06-06-2011, 06:31 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: LaLa Land
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I'd keep quiet at this point and "go west young man"
If they don't get it by now they never will.
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06-06-2011, 06:39 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Washington, DC
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Originally Posted by 73ss454
I'd keep quiet at this point and "go west young man"
If they don't get it by now they never will.
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+1 You could safely talk about some of this stuff if the poobah asked your opinion but piping up on your own you could be taken wrong.
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Idleness is fatal only to the mediocre -- Albert Camus
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06-06-2011, 07:59 AM
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#144
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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Join Date: May 2005
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Originally Posted by donheff
+1 You could safely talk about some of this stuff if the poobah asked your opinion but piping up on your own you could be taken wrong.
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+2 on the post.... at the age he is at... and at the position he is at... he probably thinks he knows more than you anyhow...
OR, he has heard it all before and just ignores it...
Some people are just the way they are... you can not change them.... so why try...
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06-06-2011, 08:24 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
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Originally Posted by brewer12345
I am tempted (heavily) to send an email to the grand poohbah with a few suggestions as I exit, but not sure if the risk is worth it.
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You're absolutely right about the risk. Not worth it.
10 years from now this will all seem at least as stupid as it seems now, and you'll take comfort in knowing that you exited on the high road.
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06-06-2011, 08:51 AM
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#146
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer12345
Thursday I met the grand poohbah at a reception after an assembly intended to propound the "benefits" of this massive shtshow. Breathtaking cluelessness was displayed about how to manage and motivate people. I am tempted (heavily) to send an email to the grand poohbah with a few suggestions as I exit, but not sure if the risk is worth it.
Meanwhile, friends I would have labelled as "lifers" here are looking at the grass on the other side of the fence commenting on its appealing shade.
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Send the email . . . but
Write in Word ... remember emails NEVER go away
Print the document
DO NOT save the document
You'll feel better.
Good Luck on your new position!
Rita
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06-06-2011, 09:36 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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Location: Portland, Oregon
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Do not write or say what you are thinking. Just smile. Your departure will speak for itself. If someone asks you about the group turn the question back to them.
He is clueless or would not be able to implement necessary changes even if he understood the problems. It is sad, I feel for those who are hired to back-fill the departures.
Spend all your energy on you, not them. Enjoy Denver and don't look back.
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06-06-2011, 10:22 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright
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Originally Posted by Brat
Do not write or say what you are thinking. Just smile. Your departure will speak for itself. If someone asks you about the group turn the question back to them.
He is clueless or would not be able to implement necessary changes even if he understood the problems. It is sad, I feel for those who are hired to back-fill the departures.
Spend all your energy on you, not them. Enjoy Denver and don't look back.
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Agree completely. You can't enlighten those that are brain dead, but you can piss off the vindictive. Feel sad for the good ones left behind, forget those not worth remembering, and walk out the door with a big smile.
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06-07-2011, 09:32 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Originally Posted by Leonidas
Agree completely. You can't enlighten those that are brain dead, but you can piss off the vindictive. Feel sad for the good ones left behind, forget those not worth remembering, and walk out the door with a big smile.
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Oh, yeah - watch out for the vindictive - and many times they aren't who you thought they were. Passive Aggressiveness tends to permeate their approach - ouch!
Good luck on the trip west and the new job - Denver sure isn't New York ;-) Enjoy - the west is wide open. Lots of space. I Love it.
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06-07-2011, 08:45 PM
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Full time employment: Posting here.
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Don't risk it. Just look forward to the new job. The fact that you are leaving is a pretty big statement.
Best of Luck!
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06-08-2011, 12:43 PM
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Recycles dryer sheets
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You've enough material for a great book......if you don't send the email, someday, you can interview the guy, and all the other morons, and make a million!
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06-08-2011, 01:04 PM
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#152
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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The only reason I seriously considered sending suggestions is that the poohbah told everyone in the group (hundreds of people) that she wanted at least one suggestion from everyone. Of course, now I find out that the suggestions are being forwarded back down the line to the little people to "research," complete with a deadline and a tracking spreadsheet (which must be a massive undertaing of itself). I imagine it is only a matter of time before at least one person is told to "research" their own suggestion.
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06-08-2011, 02:05 PM
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#153
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
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Location: LaLa Land
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Well, since you already know the answer to your suggestion, don't bother. They don't get it and never will. Just move on and let them sit in their own poop.
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06-08-2011, 02:17 PM
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#154
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Now that I know what is being done with the suggestions, I have absolutely no inclination to send one.
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06-09-2011, 01:06 PM
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#155
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Hahahaha. My team and I have been commended to take part in an hour-long conference call that is solely intended to be used to plan the next call. I wish I were making this stuff up.
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06-09-2011, 01:37 PM
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#156
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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Any sand piles need moving?
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06-09-2011, 01:40 PM
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#157
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg52
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It would probably have to be done one grain at a time.
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06-09-2011, 01:48 PM
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Wait! Before you can start moving those sand grains, we need a plan to document the project. Pre-meeting begins in an hour.
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06-09-2011, 04:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer12345
Hahahaha. My team and I have been commended to take part in an hour-long conference call that is solely intended to be used to plan the next call. I wish I were making this stuff up.
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What? A conference call to plan a conference call?
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06-09-2011, 04:43 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
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Location: Oahu
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelB
What? A conference call to plan a conference call?
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Whoa whoa whoa, I'm with Michael, we need to slow down and have a couple in-house meetings to plan the agenda for this conference-call-planning conference call...
I hope you get to burn some vacation & personal time before you load up the Conestoga trailer and head west.
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