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08-12-2017, 05:10 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 7,664
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Originally Posted by braumeister
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"Take the blue pill or the red pill, Neo?"
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08-12-2017, 06:10 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 12,334
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I really haven't noticed any bots here.
As for the trolls, they may just be folks I disagree with  . No harm, no foul, IMO.
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Have you ever seen a headstone with these words
"If only I had spent more time at work" ... from "Busy Man" sung by Billy Ray Cyrus
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08-12-2017, 06:54 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,479
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This seems like an appropriate thread to ask a question I've always had. What exactly is the purpose of someone starting some thread like "what's your favorite color?" Is it some person in the basement with nothing better to do?
And what exactly would the purpose of a "bot" be to randomly start some thread? I'm not even sure what a "bot" is in the world of forums. Is it some random AI software that spits out crap into forums to just start threads for no purpose?
Inquiring minds want to know!
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08-12-2017, 06:59 AM
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Administrator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Land of Florida Man
Posts: 38,814
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Someone developing a bot would test it on a forum, to see how people respond to it's posts, and if it can engage in dialog without being detected.
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08-12-2017, 07:13 AM
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Administrator
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: N. Yorkshire
Posts: 32,818
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Facebook engineers panic, pull plug on AI after bots develop their own language – BGR
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Facebook engineers were forced to pull the plug on one of the company’s AI systems after its bots began communicating with each other in a completely new language which humans simply couldn’t decipher.
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08-12-2017, 07:23 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Toronto
Posts: 3,287
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marko
"Take the blue pill or the red pill, Neo?"
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+1
So beat me to it!
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08-12-2017, 07:45 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 8,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
.....bots began communicating with each other in a completely new language which humans simply couldn’t decipher.
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Sounds like our (almost) two year old twin granddaughters.
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"Exit, pursued by a bear."
The Winter's Tale, William Shakespeare
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08-12-2017, 07:48 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,389
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
Even threads started by trolls or bots can have some value. I have learned quite a bit by reading posts responding to another member's question.
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What then is the answer? Do nothing and live with it. I can do that. But it will force me to be a lot more selective in responding to new posters on their very first post.
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The first rule of compounding: Never interupt it unnecessarily. Charlie Munger
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08-12-2017, 08:16 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 12,334
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelB
Someone developing a bot would test it on a forum, to see how people respond to it's posts, and if it can engage in dialog without being detected.
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Sounds a bit like someone trying to use a bot under disguise gain information on forum members.
Maybe there's a compromise of not leaving full openness vs too restrictive?
I personally have no problem with a captcha since that's a one time deal for verification.
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Have you ever seen a headstone with these words
"If only I had spent more time at work" ... from "Busy Man" sung by Billy Ray Cyrus
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08-12-2017, 08:22 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 2,157
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08-12-2017, 08:31 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 10,941
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator
Maybe the moderators create these single post userIDs and one-off threads on slow forum days to keep the forum active...
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When I was employed we had that. They were called data security and would often launch DOS attacks during the day on production servers. "Just wanted to see if anyone noticed!"
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08-12-2017, 08:58 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: GTA
Posts: 1,700
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
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Facebook = Skynet ?
I can believe it.
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Family Motto: "Every penny's a prisoner"
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08-12-2017, 09:04 AM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: The Desert
Posts: 311
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For every posting barrier erected, a program can be modified to work around it. Moderators with sharp teeth are the best answer to the bot/troll problem.
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08-12-2017, 09:09 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,385
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T-Minus
For every posting barrier erected, a program can be modified to work around it.
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Not true. There is no bot or automated program that can bypass CAPTCHA, which is why it's so widely used to validate new user accounts around the web. Trolls are a different story, since they are humans, but there are various measures that can deter them, like the ones I listed in post #1 of this thread.
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08-12-2017, 12:33 PM
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Administrator
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: N. Yorkshire
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Thanks everyone for your interest, your suggestions have been forwarded to the site's owners and technical team.
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