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Everybody put down your guns...
07-03-2005, 01:28 PM
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Everybody put down your guns...
Looks like we have been in multiple shouting matchs a bit lately.
Please, folks, don't post huge copy/paste articles from other sites (especially when they are copyrighted articles), just link them. And maybe only do that if there is some possible vague relevance? And if it starts to turn into a shouting match, then it probably shouldn't have been here in the first place. Only topics started or joined by ***** were usually both E-R related and apparently worthy of heated emotion. Let's let him retain the honor of being the only person ever blocked from here!
I have no interest in blocking anything (although some occasional posts do make me question my commitment to free speech...), but at the same time, it was never my intent to host a political free-for-all.
There are the occasional new visitors/members who come to chat and/or learn something about E-R -- imagine that; I suspect at this point more of these newbies don't bother coming back than bookmark the forum.
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-04-2005, 02:24 PM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
Maybe a new catagory could be started - Politics and Religion - things your mother told you never to discuss in polite company. You could make it self maintaining by having all posts automatical deleting themselves after 24/48 hours - plenty of time to blow off steam, and then hopefully forgotton.
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-04-2005, 03:12 PM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
Sure beats the finer points 36 month rolling asset correlations, expected growth numbers for selected asset classes vs the Gordon equation or dividend discount model.
Now that would be contoversial.
Heh, heh, heh.
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-04-2005, 06:57 PM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
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Originally Posted by dory36
Looks like we have been in multiple shouting matchs a bit lately.
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There are the occasional new visitors/members who come to chat and/or learn something about E-R -- imagine that; I suspect at this point more of these newbies don't bother coming back than bookmark the forum.
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I really wonder if I would have stayed and become a member here if the Cr@p that is going on now was happening when I joined.
I believe this is not the place for juvenile insults such as have been seen lately. They are not even humorous. A thread starting with numbnuts? How pathetic. That is just one example.
Dory36 has provided a valuable resource for those already retired and those planning retirement. I do not wish to see it ruined.
Insults and name calling are after all the first refuge of the incompetent.
Bruce
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-04-2005, 07:25 PM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
I agree with you, Dory36. Thanks for saying something about it.
kate
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-04-2005, 11:07 PM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
Oh, this board is about early retirement?  Some other sites, have an option to ignore a specific poster. I dont know if I found if you can do that here. Maybe add an auto. screener for Trolls?
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-05-2005, 06:35 AM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
Some of you may be surprised that I agree with Dory also. It's
almost always tough to achieve any balance in this sort of venue.
I can handle about any form of verbal expression and a couple of
posts even made me wince. However, unless it's repeated,
lengthy abusive and obvious trolling, I prefer the "free speech-
let it flow" approach. Sure there is a danger of losing some
members and/or getting away from the original intent.
Censorship is worse IMHO.
JG
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-05-2005, 09:07 AM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
I consider this site the equivalent to a virtual cafe/bar, where the gang gets together to shoot the sh*t breeze over a cup of joe/schooner of beer. No topic is off limits, but with freedom comes the responsibility to be somewhat civil. Plus, after about nine pages or so, I consider the topic cussed and discussed, ad nauseum...
Cheerio...
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-05-2005, 01:42 PM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
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Originally Posted by Have Funds, Will Retire
I consider this site the equivalent to a virtual cafe/bar, where the gang gets together to shoot the sh*t breeze over a cup of joe/schooner of beer. No topic is off limits, but with freedom comes the responsibility to be somewhat civil. Plus, after about nine pages or so, I consider the topic cussed and discussed, ad nauseum...
Cheerio...
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An interesting sidebar is that these threads that many people claim to hate are always the most popular, in the sense of # of posts and pages. I haven't read it, so I can't say if it was all one or two people, or if many participated.
I do think it is an underrated topic. One that will turn out to be very important for America. I just don't think I will personally gain much from hearing what a bunch of people who do little research and already have their minds made up anyway have to say about it.
But since I have the self control to read something or not, I do not personally feel the need for censhorship. (Unless there is invective directed at posters than goes well* beyond the usual level here.)
Ha
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-06-2005, 06:23 PM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
You guys get guns?
All I got is this crappy little pointy sword thing.
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-06-2005, 06:40 PM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
Yep
Those who pass muster with Dory - get special internet ray guns.
Pssst - it's supposed to be a secret - don't blab.
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-08-2005, 06:49 PM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
I concur with Dory. Disagree with a person's ideas, but don't call them names. It's like arguing with your spouse. You don't (shouldn't) say: "I hate you." You might say: "I hate what you have done, and here's why." If name-calling continues, the forum will suffer; and it's a great forum with lots of sharp people, right now.
Actually I did kinda like some of the shots, since I wasn't in the line of fire.
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-08-2005, 09:18 PM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
Are you sure
Beware the mighty internet ray gun! Sometimes you have been shot and don't know it until too late.
Heh, heh, heh, heh, heh,heh.
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-08-2005, 11:06 PM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
Unclemick...how do you decide exactly how many 'heh's to append to or precursor a post?
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Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful. Just another form of "buy low, sell high" for those who have trouble with things. This rule is not universal. Do not buy a 1973 Pinto because everyone else is afraid of it.
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-09-2005, 12:02 AM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-09-2005, 12:44 AM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
heh  , heh  , heh
not unclemick.
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-09-2005, 07:01 AM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
Heh, heh, heh
A rude, crude approximation of a certain poster's B.S. meter at moment of posting - is a less numerical - aka Zen like touchy feely measure. Perhaps
heh, heh, heh, heh, heh, heh.
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-09-2005, 09:30 AM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
I'm with you Dory. Who would'nt be? In matters of format and content the host rules. This isn't the Supreme Court its the Internet. Free speech can easily be tinkered with.
Beware or begone.
Heh
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-09-2005, 10:55 AM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
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Originally Posted by BUM
I'm with you Dory. Who would'nt be? In matters of format and content the host rules.* This isn't the Supreme Court its the Internet. Free speech can easily be tinkered with.*
Beware or begone.
Heh
Yep, they are "tinkering" with free speech every day it seems.
JG
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
07-09-2005, 02:22 PM
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Re: Everybody put down your guns...
Ok - soooo - someone blab.
The secret address you mail your required number of recyled dryer sheets to - to get your very own internet ray gun.
It's even better than the 'Captain Midnight' secret decoder ring of my youth.
BTY - my lips are sealed until I hit 90. Sort of like that 'other guy' - "Follow the money."
heh, heh, heh, heh, heh.
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