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Old 06-01-2009, 06:19 PM   #1
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Query about self-publishing a book

I'd like to start a thread about who has published a book. But I realize that, to reply, the person could/would likely mention his/her writer's name, title and place to access it. Mine, for instance, would be on Kindle.

Please let me know if I can do this, under the current rules of no marketing or sales on threads.
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Old 06-01-2009, 07:22 PM   #2
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I don't understand why you have to include the particulars about a book in order to discuss the process of writing or selfpublishing. Many people here sell things on eBay and discuss that process, for example, without needing to direct us to eBay to see what they are selling. You could talk about the process of converting your files to Kindle format in generic terms--we don't need to know that the end result is called The Dirty Girl's Guide to Widgets and it's available at for $14.99 (shoot me if there is a book really called that--I swear I just made it up!).

I imagine anything that could be construed as marketing or sales efforts would be interpreted as spam and result in posts being edited or deleted.

Of course one can always contact Andy, the site owner, for information about paying for advertising on this site
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Old 06-01-2009, 07:58 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by ScooterGuy View Post
Mine, for instance, would be on Kindle.
I can understand Kindle attracting more readers for less money.

But would that be the only way you'd publish the book? I'd think that paper still sells more than a reader or a website.

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I can understand Kindle attracting more readers for less money.

But would that be the only way you'd publish the book? I'd think that paper still sells more than a reader or a website.
I'm sure -- but I'd also imagine it's a lot harder to get someone to publish a book in print, and if you went the self-publishing route the costs to print up a bunch of books might be prohibitive compared to moving a bunch of electrons around.
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Interesting in this weekend's papers re the non-self-publishing world today:

John Sayles, Oscar-nominated creator of "Return of the Secaucus 7," "Lone Star," "Matewan" and other movies, is having trouble getting a book deal.

The situation is almost entirely traceable to the publishing industry's economic woes, and it's raising eyebrows, because Sayles was an accomplished fiction writer long before he made his first film. Weighing in at a whopping 1,000 typed pages, "Some Time in the Sun" is his first novel since 1990's "Los Gusanos."
John Sayles, novelist, seeks a binding agreement - Los Angeles Times
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I bought a video of "Lone Star" on the recommendation of a film studies prof. It has no re-sale value. Just curious, how many of you have heard of John Sayles or seen any of his movies? Do you agree with one customer that Lone Star captures the true essence of Texas?

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Cuppa I really loved Lone Star.

I wonder if Sayles's latest book is very overwritten and needs some trimming (at 1000 pages).
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1000 pages - that's a long one. No wonder there were problems in publishing. I just read an article a day ago about ebooks and how they affect book sales. Oh well...
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My understanding that, in this market, sales of e-books have not dropped off as much as hard copy paper book sales. So, provided that you have found a place that wants to publish your topic or title, you still have to deal with the book market itself.

Average sales of a book title is about 3,000, unless you are someone who is famous like Madonna or Hilary Clinton, et al. So you must take into consideration your costs of publishing and the likely event that you will ‘only’ sell 3,000 books… maybe.

If you list your book on Amazon, they can discount your title (say your book is $20, they can list it at $14.99) which makes it appealing to buyers. Depending on how much you are making on the book - if you self publish - that discount will be cutting into your profits. Supposedly, having it listed on Amazon and the ability to make more sales makes up the difference. (More books sold at $14.99 = more money than less books sold by you at $20).

As far as having it ‘Kindle ready’ Billy and I were discussing this topic with a friend who send us the following insight which I think is worthwhile to read:

The majority of time people read a book once, and then they are put away. However, a book has some value and it can be sold or given to someone else who has expressed an interest in the topic of the book or in something by the same author. You purchase a book and it is your property to dispose of as you wish when you have finished with it.

A book purchased from the Kindle bookshop for your Kindle can only be used on that Kindle with your account and not on any other. You have no rights to the text to sell it afterwards, or even to give it away. There is a promise from Amazon that in the event of your Kindle being stolen you can block the old machine and have all the books you have purchased from Amazon downloaded onto the new Kindle you buy from Amazon. After you die there is no residual value for anything on the Kindle. If you want someone else to read a book on the Kindle then you have to lend them yours, you cannot loan the book to them or sell the book to them.

Whether or not that’s an issue to you particularly, is anyone’s guess. But I think many of us have had the experience of either selling books to a used book store for a bit of cash, or gifting them to friends. Once a book is on Kindle,… it ‘dies’ there. No more value to you or anyone else, unless you give them your Kindle.

There are many advantages of self-publishing. You control your content 100% - no editor will be able to water down your message or story. You make more money on each sale. If you publish on digital media, you can upgrade or update your information pretty easily and keep it current, have it interactive, add video and sound. Whereas on a hard copy book, you have to publish a minimum amount of books, and making changes is laborious and costly. BUT you have a publicist who will get your books into bookstores, into libraries and onto Amazon. They might get you a book tour where you present your book and sign them. You pay them a percentage of your book price for those services.

There are several other issues you need to consider as well - how you will market your book, to whom, and where. How you will distribute your book, and if you will make a download version (assuming you wanted a digital medium). And things like - do you want to purchase an ISBN number, donate several hundred of your books to libraries to have them available and get your name out there, and if it is a digital product, things like copyright security.

I think if you have a dream of publishing a book, certainly go for it. It is a very rewarding experience on many levels and you grow as a person and as a writer.

Best of luck! Don't let anyone steal your dream.

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Old 06-04-2009, 05:35 PM   #10
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I've written several how to ebooks. While they aren't a goldmine they do bring in a decent amount of money each month. The key is to choose a good topic to write about that people want info on.
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