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Triple checking the numbers
11-22-2016, 09:45 PM
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Triple checking the numbers
I went to FireCalc and input
$100,000 Port
Zero spending
20 years time span
100% stocks
.18 expenses
It says the LOWEST amount I will have at the end of the 20 years is $100,000
My understanding is that $100,000 at the end is not a nominal $100,000 but what $100,000 would have bought at the beginning of that 20 year period.
Is that correct?
Thanks
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11-22-2016, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by razztazz
It says the LOWEST amount I will have at the end of the 20 years is $100,000
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It absolutely does >not< say that. It >might<, though, "say" that, in the limited historical data in its universe, in no 20-year series did a portfolio do worse than that.
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Originally Posted by razztazz
My understanding is that $100,000 at the end is not a nominal $100,000 but what $100,000 would have bought at the beginning of that 20 year period.
Is that correct?
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Yes, correct.
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11-22-2016, 10:23 PM
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It absolutely does >not< say that. It >might<, though, "say" that, in the limited historical data in its universe, in no series did a portflio do worse than that.
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Obviously. It's not a crystal ball. I can only refer to what Firecalc coughs up
Here is how your portfolio would have fared in each of the 126 cycles. The lowest and highest portfolio balance at the end of your retirement was $100,000 to $1,040,141, with an average at the end of $389,606
It said that.
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Originally Posted by razztazz View Post
My understanding is that $100,000 at the end is not a nominal $100,000 but what $100,000 would have bought at the beginning of that 20 year period.
Is that correct?
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Yes, correct.
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Thanks. That was the important part
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11-22-2016, 11:33 PM
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But there's something wacky about that to-the-dollar $100K min amount. I don't know how that happened.
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11-23-2016, 06:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by razztazz
It says the LOWEST amount I will have at the end of the 20 years is $100,000
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Originally Posted by samclem
But there's something wacky about that to-the-dollar $100K min amount. I don't know how that happened.
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Yes, this is a bug when you enter a very low spending amount. See this E-R post. http://www.early-retirement.org/foru...ml#post1751501
And this Bogleheads thread. https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=191981
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11-23-2016, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MBSC
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Thank you Previous Two. I thought the exact amount thing was a bit fishy too but I ran the same thing thru the other calculator (*******) and it gave me something like $108,xyz which was close enough to infer some kind of rounding limit within FireCalc
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