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Old 01-16-2020, 09:26 AM   #1
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Why this is happening is unclear, but the scientists suggest that improvements in sanitation and improved dental and medical care have reduced chronic inflammation, and the constant temperatures maintained by modern heating and air conditioning have helped lower resting metabolic rates. Today, a temperature of 97.5 may be closer to “normal” than the traditional 98.6.
Wow, that is an interesting one.

Article: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/w...ts-normal.html
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Old 01-16-2020, 09:33 AM   #2
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I couldn't read the article (paywall) but the "normal" human temperature was originally determined to be 37°C which was only a rough approximation. Someone converted that to 98.6°F and the addition of the decimal point made it seem like it was very precise. That was a misunderstanding that has persisted to the present day.

Actually, it varies quite a bit among people. My personal "normal" is 97.6°F, just as an example. That's been constant since I was a child.
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I couldn't read the article (paywall) but the "normal" human temperature was originally determined to be 37°C which was only a rough approximation. Someone converted that to 98.6°F and the addition of the decimal point made it seem like it was very precise. That was a misunderstanding that has persisted to the present day.

Actually, it varies quite a bit among people. My personal "normal" is 97.6°F, just as an example. That's been constant since I was a child.
Thanks, I modified the link so it should work now.
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Thanks, I modified the link so it should work now.
Not for me.
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Rats. Could you try your search engine with something like "new york times body temperature". I think it is generally available without paying.

I have a $4/month subscription to the NY Times. The health articles there are particularly interesting. But before I had a subscription I had just a login. And then I signed up for their weekly wellness summary which has links to the health articles. So that stuff should be generally available I think unless they changed it in recent months.
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link works for me in google, launched it incognito as I don't have a sub. But most articles are free until the monthly limit of 10 or so?

I've always been on the low side, 96's. I'm never 98+ unless I'm sick.

Growing up in the UK we were always taught 98.4, so it struck me as odd when I moved to the US and it was 98.6 here. Never bothered to look up why though.
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Maybe a partial explanation for the
http://www.early-retirement.org/foru...d.php?t=100964


It was easier to be skinny in the 1980s

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Usually about 98 even and here I thought it was the benefits of retirement.
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So our bodies are now helping reduce global warming.
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I am usually pretty close to 98.6 when healthy, usually around 98.5 to 98.8.

My dad's "normal" was 96.8.
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I'm amazed that people even know their temperature. I can't remember the last time I had my temperature taken. Probably indirectly by the thermal scanners at the airport during SARS. Just lucky I guess.
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I just searched on the first sentence of the article and found multiple free sources, such as this one.

I'd seen the article a few days ago and was a bit surprised that it was even noteworthy that individuals have varying "normal" temperatures. And even your "normal" can vary quite a bit during the day and night.
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I just searched on the first sentence of the article and found multiple free sources, such as this one.

I'd seen the article a few days ago and was a bit surprised that it was even noteworthy that individuals have varying "normal" temperatures. And even your "normal" can vary quite a bit during the day and night.
To me the theory that the decline in average body temperatures is due to a reduction in inflammations through better diets, etc. is newsworthy.
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To me the theory that the decline in average body temperatures is due to a reduction in inflammations through better diets, etc. is newsworthy.

Here's the original statistical work, https://elifesciences.org/articles/49555
It does refer to people using more anti inflammatories now than then, but brushes it aside as not the reason. I wonder about the more prevalent use of anti bacterial's , but that should show as only a certain percentage in the stats. The one I wonder about are the antibiotics fed to cattle and chickens us consuming them.
While working on a digital thermometer to read the outside temp, I wanted to see how it compared to other thermometers in the house. I took my under tongue temp with a mercury body temp meter 99.7*F, a digital body temp meter 99.0F, A k type digital meter sensor 98.2*F and the meter I bought to test outside temp 98.3*F.
Does anyone know what time it is?


btw; the meter I bought measured ice water at 0.2*F, seems pretty good
at accurate at near freezing. I didn't try boiling water.

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To me the theory that the decline in average body temperatures is due to a reduction in inflammations through better diets, etc. is newsworthy.

Here's the original statistical work, https://elifesciences.org/articles/49555
It does refer to people using more anti inflammatories now than then, but brushes it aside as not the reason. I wonder about the more prevalent use of anti bacterial's , but that should show as only a certain percentage in the stats. The one I wonder about are the antibiotics fed to cattle and chickens us consuming them.
While working on a digital thermometer to read the outside temp, I wanted to see how it compared to other thermometers in the house. I took my under tongue temp with a mercury body temp meter 99.7*F, a digital body temp meter 99.0F, A k type digital meter sensor 98.2*F and the meter I bought to test outside temp 98.3*F.
I'd like to have the most confidence in the mercury thermometer, but then I might be sick :-/



btw; the meter I bought measured ice water at 0.2*F, seems pretty

accurate at near freezing. I didn't try boiling water.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I'm ~97.1, have been that way since I learned how to take my own temp.
But as a kid I went to school sick many times, as I "only" had a ~99.1 - .5 fever... "that's nothing, that's not a fever, you're going to school!". But it was really 100.6 - 101 adjusting for my low normal. No wonder I felt awful. The tyranny of 98.6!

Too late to do anything about it now. So I'll go on youtube and play the song. And substitute "97.1" for "98.6"

not mad, burning up with fever! Want a kiss?
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From my late 20's and beyond my normal temp is between 97.5 and 97.8. My current GF says it's my excess Neanderthal DNA. When annoyed, she refers to me as her " Dumb ass caveman ".
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I'm amazed that people even know their temperature. I can't remember the last time I had my temperature taken. Probably indirectly by the thermal scanners at the airport during SARS. Just lucky I guess.
The physician's assistant always takes my vitals before I see my doctor, at routine exams. He tells me what my temperature is, my blood pressure, my blood sugar, and so on, as he makes these measurements.

I like that he does that, because I don't have to ask.
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