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09-27-2020, 09:09 AM
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#101
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Originally Posted by sengsational
It seems like everyone I know that went in for their first colonoscopy at age 50+ said "I had a polyp (or three) removed". That happened to me too, but no polyps found since, and I've had a few more colonoscopies.
So, thinking about the Cologuard contraindication with adenomas, I started thinking back and I don't think I ever heard the word "adenoma" uttered by a doctor. But had heard "polyp", so I looked it up on the colon page of Mayo Clinic:
So it sounds like as long as you had the benign kind of polyp, you're still ok with Cologuard, but if you had the less benign ones, you're not. I'm glad for this discussion because now I know a bit more about the topic and will be able to kind of prepared when I discuss it with my doctor.
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Today, my favorite Internet facing doctor, Peter Attia, released a blog about CRC, triggered by the death of Chadwick Boseman (age 43). They have a nice picture of the various stages of polyp through cancer:
The article doesn't mention "Cologuard", directly and seems to lump the fecal blood test and DNA tests as "screening tests for a screening test". He mentions that risk of perforation is about 1 in 3,000 for asymptomatics, and you should ask if your scope doc has ever perforated. Also ask their adenoma detection rate (ADR) and average withdraw time. ADR should be >30% for male >20% for female. Withdraw time should be 6 minutes.
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09-28-2020, 06:45 AM
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#102
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Southern UT
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Not to hijack the thread but in discussion of qualifications/evaluations of docs and procedures I find myself wondering whether or where it might be possible to see KPIs on surgeons or other procedure performers? What entities collect this data?
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09-28-2020, 09:11 AM
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#103
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: SoCal, Lausanne
Posts: 4,408
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The protocol with our health care provider now is perform a fecal DNA test (they have their own) annually and if a positive result is indicated, a colonoscopy is performed. The fecal DNA test is covered 100% by insurance.
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09-28-2020, 09:35 AM
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#104
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Red Rock Country
Posts: 1,932
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom56
The protocol with our health care provider now is perform a fecal DNA test (they have their own) annually and if a positive result is indicated, a colonoscopy is performed. The fecal DNA test is covered 100% by insurance.
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Is this for anyone including folks who have had a history of polyps? As someone who always has had polyps found and removed, I think I'll stick with my colonoscopy schedule for now.
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09-28-2020, 07:13 PM
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#105
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Far NW 'burbs of Chicago
Posts: 898
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^^^
Me too, similar history.
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Friendly Reminder to get your colonoscopies.
09-30-2020, 11:08 AM
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#106
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Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,867
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Friendly Reminder to get your colonoscopies.
66, and I’m due for my 4th one this year.. I wonder will Medicare and my united healthcare pay for it? My first one he took out some small polyps ...
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09-30-2020, 11:41 AM
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#107
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: chicago burbs
Posts: 806
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65 and getting my 3rd tomorrow morning
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09-30-2020, 11:46 AM
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#108
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 306
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Just finished my first this morning. No issues, thank god. Four years late but better now than never.
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09-30-2020, 12:07 PM
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#109
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Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,867
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Quote:
Originally Posted by golfnut
65 and getting my 3rd tomorrow morning
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Who paid for it?
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09-30-2020, 12:08 PM
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#110
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Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,867
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gremlin
Just finished my first this morning. No issues, thank god. Four years late but better now than never.
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If older than 65 who paid for it?
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09-30-2020, 12:35 PM
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#111
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Portland
Posts: 1,713
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Quote:
Originally Posted by golfnut
65 and getting my 3rd tomorrow morning
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enjoy your afternoon
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09-30-2020, 01:25 PM
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#112
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 306
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rayinpenn
If older than 65 who paid for it?
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I’m 54 and not retired yet. Health insurance through work paid for it.
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09-30-2020, 01:55 PM
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#113
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 5,317
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rayinpenn
If older than 65 who paid for it?
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DH had to have 2 colonoscopies last year (one was a follow up to make sure they got all of a large polyp) and Medicare plus his Supplement paid 100% of the cost for both the colonoscopies.
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09-30-2020, 02:19 PM
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#114
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: SoCal, Lausanne
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian S
Is this for anyone including folks who have had a history of polyps? As someone who always has had polyps found and removed, I think I'll stick with my colonoscopy schedule for now.
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It applies to patients who were clear after their first colonoscopy. I had one at age 50 and had no issues. After the fecal DNA test was approved, they added the test to anyone over 55 as part of their annual physical. I think this is a better approach than waiting 10 years between colonoscopies.
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09-30-2020, 02:26 PM
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#115
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Location: Flyover country
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Age 50, a few polyps removed
Age 57, the same
Age 63, no polyps, but diverticulosis
Age 70, 2 polyps, diverticulosis
They want me back for another at 75, and I'm leaning toward doing it, even though some say you should stop after 70.
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09-30-2020, 05:14 PM
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#116
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Quote:
Originally Posted by braumeister
Age 50, a few polyps removed
Age 57, the same
Age 63, no polyps, but diverticulosis
Age 70, 2 polyps, diverticulosis
They want me back for another at 75, and I'm leaning toward doing it, even though some say you should stop after 70.
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Even though colon cancer is generally very slow (hence the 10 year interval for those with no sign of it), since you've had polyps and diverticulitis, your risk is higher. I'm sure you've prepared financially for retirement through at least your 90s, as someone with a background in public health, I would advise you to take a similar approach to your health.
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09-30-2020, 06:19 PM
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#117
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Far NW 'burbs of Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by braumeister
Age 50, a few polyps removed
Age 57, the same
Age 63, no polyps, but diverticulosis
Age 70, 2 polyps, diverticulosis
They want me back for another at 75, and I'm leaning toward doing it, even though some say you should stop after 70.
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Some people also say you should die after 70.
I'm 75 now and getting a colonoscopy every 3 years because my Dad died with colon cancer, and I've had a half-dozen polyps removed over the years.
When I get to the point that I don't think I'll live another three years, then I'll skip the colonoscopy.
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10-01-2020, 10:55 AM
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#118
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Dryer sheet wannabe
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Midland
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I'm 49 and getting ready to ER within the next year. Had a colonoscopy earlier this year and the doc couldn't remove a polyp due to its size. Had a diff doc try again two months later and it had already grown quite a bit (to 6cm). Had surgery last month and they removed a foot of my colon and stuffed me back together. Biopsy came back negative, but he guaranteed due to it's size it would have turned into cancer within a couple years.
So I'm very thankful I had one, so sorry to the OP.
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10-01-2020, 12:57 PM
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#119
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 5,317
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I am due for my third colonoscopy in the next few months. The colonoscopy place is now requiring that you have a Covid-19 test within a few days before the colonoscopy. One friend did not get the results of the Covid 19 test back in time so she had to delay the colonoscopy even after she had begun some of the prep. Anyone else having trouble getting Covid test results before a colonoscopy?
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10-01-2020, 01:12 PM
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#120
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Red Rock Country
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harllee
I am due for my third colonoscopy in the next few months. The colonoscopy place is now requiring that you have a Covid-19 test within a few days before the colonoscopy. One friend did not get the results of the Covid 19 test back in time so she had to delay the colonoscopy even after she had begun some of the prep. Anyone else having trouble getting Covid test results before a colonoscopy?
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My husband had that same requirement for cervical spine outpatient surgery last month. He worked with the folks at the outpatient surgery facility to arrange the test at a location where the results could be had within the appropriate timeframe. Work with your G.I. doctor and the colonoscopy facility as they should know where to send you for timely test results.
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