she's not interested in clearly explaining the problem or working with others toward a solution
I wouldn't say that is true. I have explained, in my own words, many many times what I think gets at the root of our problems. ....in one sentence, it's basically
cost-shifting and employer-sponsored health insurance. In the eyes of most on this board, it's the profits and admin costs.
I have also presented many, many possible thoughts on what could be done to improve the system without resorting to single-payor, which IMO, does result in a different set of consequences (long-term).
When I suggest any kind of two-tiered system, it typically gets shot down from those farthest to the left, because they don't want any kind of system that gives weathier people an advantage over the less advantaged. I have even admitted that I am not opposed to gov't subsidy for those who slip through the cracks, but it has to be done in a careful and cautious way, and it can't just be "free care".
It seems like a good percentage of the people on this topic want free care for all with little or no out of pocket responsibility for anyone. I don't think it's unrealistic to say that that would be a utopia, and who would'nt want that? If it were that easy, there wouldn't be any controversy, but it appears that very few people want to think about what might happen in the long run if we implemented a system like that.
I spent some time talking to my husband, the financial guru, about profits in the industry. He explained to me that insurance companies pay out approx. 85-95% of their income in claims and they make, on average, about 3-5% of income in profts. I asked him if he had some proof on that, and he said he does, and he'll dig it out sometime for me. When he gets around to it, I'll post it on the board if I can.
I'm not a troll - just have a lot of passion. I admit that I get sarcastic at times, but then again, there's been a lot of sarcasm against me on the board as well. Why can't people just have some stimulating conversation about the possibilities without resorting to snikering and teasing. Why can't people from both sides of the fence admit that there are severe problems on both extremes and wise up to the possibility that there may be a better solution somewhere in the middle.
I do care about ER. I am definately a wannabe and that's what first attracted me to this board. People need to know about the healthcare issues they will face in early retirement and what can be done within the current system to avoid problems. Healthcare in early retirement is one of the biggest problems that most early retiree wannabe's face, so I want to offer advice to people as to what can be done within our current system to avoid problems. We can worry about the utopia later, but everyone should be concerned and should be educating themselves about BOTH sides.