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09-15-2020, 06:48 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Apr 2013
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DW (no medical training, but she has been studying me for 40 years) just diagnosed me with PF. Thought I would revive this old thread. Have not studied Prouse's recommendations, but I began the recommended stretches. I also am wearing the old custom orthotics I have had sitting in the closet. I am already seeing some improvement.
I do have an appointment with a Podiatrist. Waffling over cancelling. I have not seen a Podiatrist in 10 years and I have flat feet. Maybe I should keep that appointment.
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09-15-2020, 07:04 AM
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I suffered with PF for months beginning in January, it was awful, especially for golf and walking for exercise. It hurt to even walk when I got out of bed each morning, I shuffled around like an old man as DW told me. But with the stretching exercises (bending and holding toes back & stretching on stair steps) and PowerStep insoles (not the cheapo drugstore ones) in my three most often worn shoes (golf, walking & casual daily) - I haven’t had that pain for months. The insoles feel a little strange at first (metatarsal pad), but I got used to it. I didn’t notice exactly when it stopped, just noticed recently that the pain is gone. I’m not doing the exercises anymore but I’ve continued with the insoles. Thank goodness. Golf buddy of mine got over it too, so there is hope.
https://www.early-retirement.org/for...is-101769.html
https://www.early-retirement.org/for...ml#post2359454
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09-15-2020, 11:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Midpack
I suffered with PF for months beginning in January, it was awful, especially for golf and walking for exercise. It hurt to even walk when I got out of bed each morning, I shuffled around like an old man as DW told me. But with the stretching exercises (bending and holding toes back & stretching on stair steps) and PowerStep insoles in my three most often worn shoes (golf, walking & casual daily) - I haven’t had that pain for months. The insoles feel a little strange at first (metatarsal pad), but I got used to it. I didn’t notice exactly when it stopped, just noticed recently that the pain is gone. I’m not doing the exercises anymore but I’ve continued with the insoles. Thank goodness. Golf buddy of mine got over it too, so there is hope.
https://www.early-retirement.org/for...is-101769.html
https://www.early-retirement.org/for...ml#post2359454
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The same regimen also worked for me. You have to be disciplined and frequent on the stretching I found , to make it effective.
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09-15-2020, 11:31 AM
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I've suffered with PF and done research too. You need to get good blood circulation to speed healing, so walk, but use good padded insoles. Scrapers and whatever help with circulation. I don't know if they have any other benefit or if they're too aggressive and do harm. I'd just make sure I move around and wear padded insoles.
I saw insoles at a medical supply place a few years ago and they were about $40-$50 but significantly thicker than regular drug store ones. I never tried them but I think they're a good idea. You can move around in them to get the blood flowing even if you're not strengthening your muscles and tendons and whatnot as much as you would be with less cushioning. At times when you can wear normal insoles without much pain, maybe do that to help condition you feet more.
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09-16-2020, 02:14 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
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Crocs Worked for Me
I've had PF before and tried numerous stretching exercises that didn't work for me. Just by chance, I had an old pair of Crocs I only rarely used and tried those for relief when walking. Really did the trick for me--as I remember, my PF resolved within a week or two.
A few years later, one of my sisters told me she had a horrible case of PF and had tried 'everything' as she said. She ordered a pair of Crocs and said they also solved the problem for her.
Every now & then you can see a review of Crocs online which will say the same thing.
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09-16-2020, 06:00 AM
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W*rking underground, I wore steel toed rubber boots or GORE tex boots 12 hous/day for 35 years. I had several bouts of PF. I wore the boot, did stretches, but the best relief I had was ultra sound therapy from the physical therapist.
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09-20-2020, 11:24 AM
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Confused about dryer sheets
Join Date: May 2020
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Funny to see this old post come up. I too had PF for years and podiatrist bills forever. My mom bought me a pair of Birkenstock sandals and said try them. Ugly as they were I now have about 20 pair and have never paid another dime to a doc. 15 years now pain free and no other bouts.
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09-20-2020, 11:31 AM
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I don't have any particular insights on PF, but I am regular listened of Peter Attia's podcast (peterattiamd.com) and his most recent guest, Irene Davis (podcast#128) is providing some extremely compelling insights into this topic. Well worth listening to (and I don't even have any obvious foot/shin/knee/hip issues)!
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09-20-2020, 07:23 PM
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I've been lucky since the PF I've had to deal with was pretty mild compared to some of the stories I've read about here. The last time I had a problem with it, about two years ago, the podiatrist suggested these Copper Fit insoles that worked great for me. She did mention that the "copper" part has nothing to do with it, but they're reasonably priced and have a raised part on them that worked well for me.
As always, YMMV.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=copper+fi..._sb_ss_sc_4_12
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09-20-2020, 11:46 PM
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Still PF-free!
As this 2-year-old thread has been revived, I thought I'd post my current status.
I have had ZERO recurrences of PF.
I now avoid super-cushy (= soft) shoes as I got the sense that they may have caused the onset of PF for me. Other than that, I don't do anything wrt PF.... I don't do any stretches, nor scraping, nor do I wear any special arch supports, insoles, socks, etc
I just visited Washington DC last week and walked for miles with zero pain.
All good.
omni
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09-21-2020, 08:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by omni550
As this 2-year-old thread has been revived, I thought I'd post my current status.
I have had ZERO recurrences of PF.
I now avoid super-cushy (= soft) shoes as I got the sense that they may have caused the onset of PF for me. Other than that, I don't do anything wrt PF.... I don't do any stretches, nor scraping, nor do I wear any special arch supports, insoles, socks, etc
I just visited Washington DC last week and walked for miles with zero pain.
All good.
omni
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Good on you! Your story mirrors the conclusions reached in the Attia podcast I mentioned above. It made sense to me but since I did not have any personal experience, I wasn’t sure.
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09-23-2020, 08:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by euro
Good on you! Your story mirrors the conclusions reached in the Attia podcast I mentioned above. It made sense to me but since I did not have any personal experience, I wasn’t sure.
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euro,
I'm halfway through the Attia interview podcast. It all makes sense to me.
Thanks for posting it.
omni
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09-23-2020, 11:54 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by euro
I don't have any particular insights on PF, but I am regular listened of Peter Attia's podcast (peterattiamd.com) and his most recent guest, Irene Davis (podcast#128) is providing some extremely compelling insights into this topic. Well worth listening to (and I don't even have any obvious foot/shin/knee/hip issues)!
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I have foot pain consistent with a Morton’s neuroma. No pain when barefoot. I wear wide hiking shoes. I’m getting minimalist hiking shoes and will report back. The podcast was one of the most sensible things I’ve heard.
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