Toxic Cleansing for the body??

[laurence]

Rich, you are the M.D., I was weighting er waiting for you to er, weigh in on this (Dang, the inside out obese woman is stuck on my mind - that's never good!)

 

[Alex]

Alex, do you have teeth marks on the towel rack, though? I mean, how gentle can something called COLON BLOW really be??

It was actually not bad at all. You just drink the product mixed with water. Very simple. I did it over a weekend (I started on friday night) and was never uncomfortable. By Sunday night I was finished.

The website is just trying to bring some much needed humor to an otherwise disgusting subject!

 

[laurence]

I did it over a weekend (I started on friday night) and was never uncomfortable. By Sunday night I was finished.

So were you "moving" all weekend? Like, do you make sure not to plan to go out to the movies because you need to hit the pot every hour or so?

Has this kind of thing been shown to have any anti-cancer benefits?

 

[cute fuzzy bunny]

http://thetravisty.com/Saturday_Night_Live/mov/Colon_Blow.htm

 

[Alex]

So were you "moving" all weekend? Like, do you make sure not to plan to go out to the movies because you need to hit the pot every hour or so?

Has this kind of thing been shown to have any anti-cancer benefits?

. I was moving every 3-4 hours when awake. I rented some video's though and never had any plans to leave the house. I didn't know what to expect!

As for any benefits, I can only say that I sure felt better. It may have been psychosomatic, but getting all the mucus, and built up feces out of your body has to be beneficial? It made me evaluate my eating decisions, thats for sure! And I got a tee shirt!!! and a hat!!

 

[laurence]

I ask because my friend was selling organic cleansers, he gave me a bag of it (looked like ground up weed) and he told me to be careful, because he tried it and was singing Bowie and Elton John(ground control to major tom....rocketman....) said the process involved breaking into a sweat and running to the bathroom every half hour or so.

 

[Alex]

I ask because my friend was selling organic cleansers, he gave me a bag of it (looked like ground up weed) and he told me to be careful, because he tried it and was singing Bowie and Elton John(ground control to major tom....rocketman....) said the process involved breaking into a sweat and running to the bathroom every half hour or so.

OUCH!!!! that does not sound like fun!! Colonblow was easy.....no pain and no sweating...

 

[MooreBonds]

A question for Rich_in_tampa (and anyone else who has knowledge to weigh in on the question):

If you were a healthy 30-year old male who wanted to do his first colon cleanse, would you opt for the colonblow, or Whole Body Cleanse (www.wbcleanse.com), which is sold by Wild Oats (a competitor to Whole Foods)? If you went with just colon blow, what recommendations could you give for a whole body detox kit? I know lazygood4nuthin posted a long list of things to eat for a fast, and some have used the "maple syrup water for 8 days" thing, but I was looking more for a system that claims to be complete.

Yes, I know to never take medical advice from a 12 year old girl from Missoula complete stranger on the net...but I was curious what you all would recommend for a first-timer who wants to flush his colon and try and detox his body.

 

[REWahoo]

A question for Rich_in_tampa (and anyone else who has knowledge to weigh in on the question):

If you were a healthy 30-year old male who wanted to do his first colon cleanse, would you opt for...

I'd like to take this one step further and ask Rich if there is any evidence to suggest that the idea of a "colon cleanse" isn't just a bunch of crap. (Serious question, pun intended.)

 

[Nords]

I'd like to take this one step further and ask Rich if there is any evidence to suggest that the idea of a "colon cleanse" isn't just a bunch of crap. (Serious question, pun intended.)

Same here. I know of several entrepreneurial business people on Ke'eamoku Street who'd happily charge for several varieties of this, but other than its "entertainment" value I'm not sure there's any medical benefit...

 

[MooreBonds]

Same here. I know of several entrepreneurial business people on Ke'eamoku Street who'd happily charge for several varieties of this, but other than its "entertainment" value I'm not sure there's any medical benefit...

While I don't have any research or studies to cite, if you simply consider that there is trace materials left in your digestive track over time, and that cancer is simply cells that mutate and grow incredibly fast, it sounds like all of that excess garbage laying around in your digestive track could assist development of cancerous cells.

A chemical analysis of the 'output' of a cleanse would be the surefire way to make the claim one way or another....but even so, do you think getting rid of that excess garbage laying around in your intestine for 20/30/40 years would be a good thing, or a bad thing? I would consider it one of those "it might not have an explicitly beneficial result every time (but could for some people), but it sure as hell can't hurt you" type of deals.

 

[Rich_by_the_Bay]

A question for Rich_in_tampa (and anyone else who has knowledge to weigh in on the question):

If you were a healthy 30-year old male who wanted to do his first colon cleanse, would you opt for the colonblow, or Whole Body Cleanse (www.wbcleanse.com)

I'm not aware of credible evidence of effectiveness for such treatments, MooreBonds. The bottom line (no pun) is whether it makes life longer and/or better. The biologic rationale doesn't make too much sense to me, though that can sometimes be misleading or insufficient; a healthy mouth-to-bottom transit time for normally ingested food and/or toxins is about 72 hours tops using sensitive assays like tracer isotopes.

So, none of this means that it doesn't work, just that it hasn't been shown to do so. We each have to make decisions about just how much theory and testimonials versus evidence is acceptable to us. You could spend a lot of time adopting practices which have been espoused without evidence one way or another (anecdote is not evidence, of course). But, there may be something of value in many alternative treatments. I try to keep an open mind.

My only advice is to know the risks, do your homework and then do what you think is best for you. Personally, I like to combine a healthy diet with periodic colonoscopy for my war against colon cancer.

Hope that helps.

 

[REWahoo]

Hope that helps.

Yeah, it did. Thanks Doc, for the straight poop.

 

[Rich_by_the_Bay]

Yeah, it did. Thanks Doc, for the straight poop.

No problelm. These things always work out in the end.

 

[ERD50]

While I don't have any research or studies to cite,

,,,,

but it sure as hell can't hurt you" type of deals.

Well, w/o some research or study, how can you be in a position to say 'it can't hurt'? I don't follow the logic of this at all. I think people want to believe that some of these 'quick fixes' can help, and choose to ignore that they have no data to support it.

Our bodies are not a car engine. We have active maintenance systems. Does a 'cleansing' remove anything that isn't removed over the normal course of events? And if so, is there any evidence that any of that 'build up' is bad? And why not flush our eye sockets, or change our bone marrow, or replace our blood and lymphatic fluid three or four times a year? Ewww, old blood!

I think the vast majority of people on this forum would be very skeptical of 'get rich quick' schemes. Why are so many so willing to accept 'get healthy quick' schemes?

Eat a variety of good quality food, keep a high ratio of fiber to calories, drink plenty of water, maintain a good weight, exercise. A lot like LBYM.

-ERD50

 

[Nords]

Well, w/o some research or study, how can you be in a position to say 'it can't hurt'? I don't follow the logic of this at all. I think people want to believe that some of these 'quick fixes' can help, and choose to ignore that they have no data to support it.
Our bodies are not a car engine. We have active maintenance systems. Does a 'cleansing' remove anything that isn't removed over the normal course of events? And if so, is there any evidence that any of that 'build up' is bad? And why not flush our eye sockets, or change our bone marrow, or replace our blood and lymphatic fluid three or four times a year? Ewww, old blood!!

Hey, if it worked for Keith Richards...

 

[cute fuzzy bunny]

These things always work out in the end.

Badump BUMP...

I'd suggest a triple dose of chicken wings doused with pure franks hot sauce. Everything will be cleared and completely cauterized within 24 hours. Everything. Any foreign substances remaining in your digestive tract will be very, very sorry.

Hey, if it worked for Keith Richards...

I've already expressed my theory on KR... http://early-retirement.org/forums/index.php?topic=5894.msg104559#msg104559

Appropriately in a thread regarding last years superbowl where the seahawks saw "winning" and confused it with "whining". Which the colts will be doing a lot of by tomorrow morning.

 

[Rich_by_the_Bay]

I'd suggest a triple dose of chicken wings doused with pure franks hot sauce. Everything will be cleared and completely cauterized within 24 hours.

Is that by enema?

 

[cute fuzzy bunny]

It really doesnt matter. Just the direction I suppose.

 

[greg]

No problem. These things always work out in the end.

Unless they don't.

After reading this thread I'm inclined toward the really old Catholic remedy. You know before fish was substituted on Friday it used to be a fasting day. I think it was used both for religious purposes and also as a curative/preventative or method to modestly clean out the system on a regular basis. It seems to me : that we've forgotten a lot of the old tales that may have worked far better than pills--just maybe not as quickly.

Which reminds me . My father's grandmother lived next door to him when he was young. He told me that frequently when he or his siblings got ill grandma would come over with mineral or castor oil as her treatment of choice for just about any sickness found. Needless to say he never recommended/volunteered this information to anyone he liked or wanted to help.

 

[Martha]

i think so, but even before life got so depressingly odd and i was being extremely healthy i used to do a juice-fast a few times a year. just vegetable & fruit juices for 3 days at a stretch. i don't know if it had actual effect but at least i felt like i was doing something healthy for myself. i thought of it like changing the routine of a workout to get more benefit.

I just heard about a study about women who worked in a job where they were busy and on their feet all day. One group of the women were told that because of the nature of their job, they were getting plenty of good healthy exercise. The control group was told nothing. The experimental group after a period of time had lower blood pressure and had lost weight.

 

[sgeeeee]

Can we start a rumor that spending time on early retirement boards provides plenty of good healthy exercise?

 

[cute fuzzy bunny]

Wow...hold on while I tell my wife I dont need to go on our morning walk before the guests arrive...I just need to put up 10 more posts!

 

[Dog]

I had to delay starting my Fat Flush (cleanse) due to travel, so I started it on Monday, 2/5 instead. So far, so good. I've lost 4 lbs. and my jeans fit again. I need to lose about 15 pounds, but my reason for the cleanse is to wean myself off sugar. I'm a total addict and have constant cravings. It seems to be working - after the first 2 days I haven't thought about sweets....just getting use to being hungry all the time. I'm supposed to follow the regimen for 2 weeks, but it is so strict that I'm just taking it a day at a time.