Join Early Retirement Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Bank of America Stock
Old 04-28-2008, 02:32 PM   #1
Dryer sheet aficionado
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 36
Bank of America Stock

Im looking for one good buy and hold stock. BAC is now trading at 2004-2005 levels and is way off its high. 6% dividend. WB is also way off its highs sporting a 5% dividend.

Should I pull trigger?
godoftrading is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 04-28-2008, 04:43 PM   #2
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
grumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,321
I have about 300 shares of BAC that I acquired when other banks, whose stock I owned, were bought by or merged with BAC. My average cost is around $20 per share so the current price of $38 would still raise my average cost basis if I bought more now.

Despite the credit crunch and big write-offs, I don't think the dividend is in any danger, in the near term so I will hold onto the shares I have. As a dividend play, buying BAC now would probably work out well. I recommend you dollar cost average in if you decide to invest.

Grumpy
grumpy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2008, 09:27 PM   #3
Dryer sheet wannabe
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 13
I bought some call options on Citi and National City for 2010. I am bullish on the financial stocks....Just my opinion.
trying2save is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2008, 07:18 AM   #4
Dryer sheet aficionado
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 30
Quote:
Should I pull trigger?
Pull the trigger Mr Chang! Sorry, I couldn't resist that. I love that E-Trade commercial.

Seriously though, I am staying away from the financial stocks.
Trapshooter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2008, 09:55 AM   #5
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,052
C has already reversed upward. For whatever reason, it looks like the better buy right now. That would be my bank pick, although I'd appreciate greatly if you'd load up on HBAN to get their share price back up.
JMO
Art G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2008, 02:30 PM   #6
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,558
I think I would rather own a bank that didn't own Countrywide. I would much prefer to own a bank that avoided making many bad loans in the first place, like US Bank or Wells Fargo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by godoftrading View Post
Im looking for one good buy and hold stock. BAC is now trading at 2004-2005 levels and is way off its high. 6% dividend. WB is also way off its highs sporting a 5% dividend.

Should I pull trigger?
Hamlet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2008, 03:08 PM   #7
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
clifp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 7,733
Well I am glutton for punishment cause I own, and/or have written puts on a bunch of banks including BAC, Wells Fargo, and US Bank, plus Countrywide.

Still if I was going to pick a single conservative bank, I'd go for BB&T. Currently yielding 5.1%. This 14th large bank in the US has 104 year history of paying dividends, with a single penny cut during the depression. It has raised dividends for the last 36 years. Most importantly despite increase in non-performing loans, and credit loss, Its first quarter 08 earning exceeded Q1 07 earnings (albeit only by a penny). Pretty much every other bank I followed show year over year decrease in profits. With a PE of 11. and and payout ratio of 58% I think it has margin of safety despite the prospect of future loan losses in its south eastern base.

M* dividend investor has buy up to $37. and projects a 10% increase in dividends once the credit crisis is behind us. When that event happens is an exercise left to the reader
clifp is offline   Reply With Quote
What do you think now, a month later?
Old 05-28-2008, 08:44 AM   #8
Recycles dryer sheets
James5v's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 88
What do you think now, a month later?

BAC is at 33.52 as I write this with a div of over 7%. Its range has been between the now near 52 week low and to last month around 40. Unless there are some nasty surprises it looks like a good play. Even if it does not move much upward, it is still a nice div.
__________________
James Otis
James5v is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2008, 10:01 AM   #9
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Indialantic FL
Posts: 1,330
Personally, I wouldn't buy BAC. Not because of it's stock performance or potential, but because I wouldn't bank there personally. Won't rant on about them, but all things considered NYB is the most conservative bank I can find with a decent yield.

Jim
jimnjana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2008, 03:16 PM   #10
Recycles dryer sheets
James5v's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 88
Thanks for the response. I am tempted to buy BAC. It closed at 33.87 giving it a 7.5% div. But I guess I will wait and see what happens. It will probably go back to 40 while I watch.

BTW, I don't bank there.
__________________
James Otis
James5v is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2008, 04:01 PM   #11
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 7,968
Hmmm - BAC, JPM, C, UBS-AG all bought in the early 90's as under DRIP plans - often as other companies subsequently merged into the above.

Sloth says keep them unless they go under. If I decide to be an active trader - I may dump a few after twenty yrs - 2013 or so.

heh heh heh - greed/hormones has me looking at more BAC a tad, but keeping a grip so far.
unclemick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2008, 03:31 PM   #12
Full time employment: Posting here.
VaCollector's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 549
BAC at a new 52 week low......time to buy? (again for me )
VaCollector is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2008, 03:47 PM   #13
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
haha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hooverville
Posts: 22,983
Quote:
Originally Posted by VaCollector View Post
BAC at a new 52 week low......time to buy? (again for me )
Averaging down on single stocks, especially financial stocks, can be tricky. B of A is huge. It should be OK, but you can never tell. There are many safer possibilities, though perhaps none so totally wiped out.

I've been investing in single stocks now for 40 years- and my only 2 bk experiences were with financials- though not of the size or prominence of BAC.

ha
__________________
"As a general rule, the more dangerous or inappropriate a conversation, the more interesting it is."-Scott Adams
haha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2008, 09:16 AM   #14
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 101
Wow, trading at $30.43 at 11AM and a yield of 8.39%.

Gotta love that. But why is it tanking? Just overall market sentiment?
Enuf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2008, 11:35 AM   #15
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,844
I don't think the market is too keen on BOA's purchase of Countrywide and there are not enough believers that the dividend is going to be maintained to support the stock price. As was pointed out in the WSJ on Friday, the amount of construction loan writeoffs by banks was only .5% in 2007 but is expected to be 2.7% in 08 and nearly 5% in 2009.

Watching Central Pacific Financial try to exit California just as fast as they can (they plan on cutting their loan portfolio in the Mainland US from 1.2 Billion to 500 million in 3 years and cutting 75% of their US positions by the end of this year) confirms there are real problems with loans in that state. So as more and more banks report problems it puts doubts in the minds of people who might otherwise buy BOA stock. I would be a buyer at 12-13 though.
__________________
But then what do I really know?

https://www.early-retirement.org/forums/f44/why-i-believe-we-are-about-to-embark-on-a-historic-bull-market-run-101268.html
Running_Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Bought Some
Old 06-14-2008, 06:04 AM   #16
Recycles dryer sheets
James5v's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 88
Bought Some

I bought 100 shares at 32.40 but plan to hold for a while. If the Div continues it will pay 7.9%. However, it is now even lower so I just wonder if anyone is buying. I see some have suggested averaging down on this stock.
__________________
James Otis
James5v is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2008, 02:17 PM   #17
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 101
I bought 10,000 shares today at 30.19, so it's bound to go to $15.10. Luckily I almost never lose more than half.
Enuf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2008, 02:26 PM   #18
Full time employment: Posting here.
mn54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: mpls, mn
Posts: 769
$300,000.00!! That has got to be a significant percentage of your assets. Unless you know something that no one else does, that's quite a risk.
mn54 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2008, 02:42 PM   #19
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
wildcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Lou-evil
Posts: 2,025
In the Barron's mid-year Roundtable, Archie MacAllaster offered 3 bank stocks - JP Chase which he called the best managed, WFC which he called the growth story and BAC which he considered speculative.

Hard to say whether or not they will cut the divi. I can't tell what is in or what is not in their war chest but I usually don't trust the 7-8% yields on common stock. Still would take my chances on USB.

Bill Gross tossed out the idea of buying Countrywide which was trading about 10% below the offer price and throw in the yield.
__________________
"These walls are kind of funny. First you hate 'em, then you get used to 'em. Enough time passes, gets so you depend on them"
wildcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2008, 02:49 PM   #20
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,080
I currently own some. However, with the question about the dividend I feel no need to increase my stake. There are safer dividends out there.
__________________
"We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.
(Ancient Indian Proverb)"
Zathras is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
free trade at bank of america. Please advice Enuff2Eat FIRE and Money 2 01-28-2008 09:08 AM
Bank of America BACKSTABBERS! thefed FIRE and Money 12 01-24-2008 01:08 PM
Bank of America - Anyone use 'em? Shabber2 FIRE and Money 10 11-08-2007 09:27 AM
Bank of America 2B Active Investing, Market Strategies & Alternative Assets 16 08-04-2007 02:53 PM
Bank of America CoolChange FIRE and Money 22 05-01-2007 04:17 PM

» Quick Links

 
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:35 PM.
 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.