RobinHood race from $2,500 to $250,000

Nice pop for Geron today. I bought a chunk of it a few years ago at $5.12 and am finally in the black again. Can’t find anything to explain why. I’d appreciate any info you can share on it.
 
I'm just glad I don't have to participate in this stuff.


+1 I think I would lose any profits and increase anxiety by having to pay a tax preparer to figure out the convoluted mess I made with all the buying and selling. As it is now my tax prep is simple enough to let the AARP volunteers do them with their software programs. I used to do them myself for decades but I check their work and they come up with the same results. Life is too short.


Cheers!
 
+1 I think I would lose any profits and increase anxiety by having to pay a tax preparer to figure out the convoluted mess I made with all the buying and selling. As it is now my tax prep is simple enough to let the AARP volunteers do them with their software programs. I used to do them myself for decades but I check their work and they come up with the same results. Life is too short.

I can appreciate what Fermion is doing. It's just very rare that you see someone bold enough to go on record and put it out there for everyone to see.

I do similar with my brokerage account at Merrill Edge, because I get 100 commission free trades each month. I have become very sour on the stock market in general, and have come to the conclusion that if I can consistently make a few hundred dollars a month on a $10k account, simply churning in and out of a few stocks which I am very familiar with, then why the heck not? The remainder of the account is in CDs, Treasuries, and municipal bonds.

As far as the tax preparation headache - most all well-known brokerages provide interfaces with the major tax preparation software packages (I'm a Turboxtax man myself). You just click a button to import and that's it. Going a step further, lots of folks make a big deal out of K-1 forms with limited partnerships and they had me all worried last year...and it turns out for no reason. Company provided individual Turbotax files to download from their website, and again, single click to import and take care of everything. Electronic filing eliminates the burden of having to print it all out and mail in 50 or more pages worth of individual short-term transactions.

Back in the day, during graduate studies, it wasn't unusual to go through exercises that come to the conclusion that in general, even if you have an arbitrage type system that could beat the market, you'd not be successful because transaction costs would eat away the profits. Well, what if your transaction costs are taken to zero? At the very least, it reduces your risk significantly when it comes to short-term trading or trading with micro-transactions. If you bought $1000 of some stock in the morning and could sell it for $25 profit in the afternoon, why wouldn't you? That's 2.5% profit in one day...the same as what you would earn if you locked up that money for an entire year in a CD. If it's me, these days I'm selling and banking that profit. As far as higher tax rates for short-term trading - I now look at it as a badge of honor for a profitable trade.

Anyhow, again, I can very well appreciate what Fermion is attempting here. Whether utilizing Robinhood or other platform that offers commission free trading, it offers significant opportunity that could/should be taken advantage of. If I do utilize the entire 100 commission free trades in a month with Merrill, that's effectively $695 in service which I have received...$695 I have effectively taken out of the system, $695 which I would have had to made on any other trades just to walk away at breakeven. JP Morgan just made a very big announcement about offering commission free trading -100 commission free trades per year for all customers and unlimited for those with higher balances ( https://money.cnn.com/2018/08/21/investing/jpmorgan-chase-free-trades/index.html ). I think that commission free trades may well become more the norm as the financial houses look to increase their assets under management - money that they are able to use for other purposes with interest rates on the rise.

In any case, I've rambled enough.
 
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I don't trade so this may be a dumb question. If RH does not charge fees, how are they paying for trading costs?


If you are up for it, go to Amazon and pick up a cheap copy of Dark Pools by Scott Patterson.

As far as the ability for brokerages to make money providing commission free trading, google for "maker-taker"...brokerages can make money by selling their order flow to others. Also, while free cash balances remain in your account, that is money which the investment house can utilize for their own purposes - minimally offering you a low interest rate while getting a higher interest rate elsewhere. Note that JP Morgan (as mentioned in last post, will begin offering commission free trading to customers) has one of the lowest interest rates paid on their savings accounts - still down at 0.01%.
 
+1 I think I would lose any profits and increase anxiety by having to pay a tax preparer to figure out the convoluted mess I made with all the buying and selling.
It's not the official IRS way, but in the past, when I was buying and selling within a few days, I just consolidated trading data on one form and attached a copy of a spreadsheet with all the details. I was able to download the spreadsheet (it may have been a csv file; I don't recall) from my brokerage. So far, the IRS hasn't come back at me asking for "proper" documentation
 
I’m going to join the race, hopefully sooner than later. DS convinced me to open account so he could get the free stock. I also got a free share (yea Chesapeake Energy).

I still need to fund the account. I’ve been busy, but hopefully over the next few weeks I’ll get it done.

For me, this is purely entertainment and with some luck, maybe I’ll make some money.
 
I just opened a new account with RobinHood this evening.

I am funding it with $2500 and probably will do a lot of biotech and options trading, maybe even biotech options!


This is straight up casino gambling but I have been doing this in Etrade since 2001 and have managed to raise a $1700 IRA account to $93,000 over the 17 years. This is with paying $9.95 stock trades and $1 per contract plus $9.95 option trades AND having to wait three days for trades to settle. I think I can do a bit better and faster with the larger stake and margin account (not for margin itself but for instant settlement). This is why the rather ambitious goal of going from $2,500 to $250,000, hopefully in a decade or less, if RobinHood stays in business.



You are my kinda guy and I'll be watching this thread ... hope you kill it!
BIO is a risky game as you say ... not touching it myself.

Are you buying at lows - guess the question is are you using technical set-ups such as RSI or MAC/D and Stochastics together or just buying randomly?

Good fortune to ya!

PS: think even an IRA acct can go short buy being "long on a PUT"?
 
September update!

Guys and gals, I have almost reached the first year goal of 60% gain! This is in a ~2 month period, so yay!

Geron helped a lot, going from the mid $3s to $6. I sure know how to pick em! :D (where is that hide under a chair emoticon?)

Merck helped too although it has pulled back some from the $70 area.

Going forward I predict Geron will hit about $8 by end of September and Merck will dance around the $68 to $72 area. I might trade a bit in and out of these again but right now am all cash except for a few free stocks (and thanks for those!)
 

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September update!

Guys and gals, I have almost reached the first year goal of 60% gain! This is in a ~2 month period, so yay!

Geron helped a lot, going from the mid $3s to $6. I sure know how to pick em! :D (where is that hide under a chair emoticon?)

Merck helped too although it has pulled back some from the $70 area.

Going forward I predict Geron will hit about $8 by end of September and Merck will dance around the $68 to $72 area. I might trade a bit in and out of these again but right now am all cash except for a few free stocks (and thanks for those!)

Nice roll on the initial investment. Got to say I rode your coattail on GERN as I had some cash sitting idle and gave it a roll. Wish I would have bought more now. Doesn't seem like the GRPN stock you got for my sign-up did as well unfortunately :) Good luck.
 
Update!

Endocyte bought out and I had 200 shares in this Robinhood purchased at $17! I just sold them and have broken the $5000 mark, which is over a 100% gain now in about 4 months time.

Need 60% gain each year for 10 years to reach quarter million. :dance:
 

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Update!

Endocyte bought out and I had 200 shares in this Robinhood purchased at $17! I just sold them and have broken the $5000 mark, which is over a 100% gain now in about 4 months time.

Need 60% gain each year for 10 years to reach quarter million. :dance:



Did you ditch GERN before it tanked?
 
I was flipping the channels the other day, which is unusual for me as I watch mostly recorded shows except for sometime a new channel...



BUT, saw a commercial on Robinhood last night... got in it in the middle and it seemed to be a decent one... kept switching though and did not watch to the end....
 
Update: You guys were right, I blew up my account, broke.

NAH!

I broke $6000 this November! 140% gain on the initial $2500 in four and a half months. I mean that isn't a bad return at all!

Currently sitting in all cash except the few free stocks for invites (they are never going to give me a Berkshire stock like they claim you can get...)

I am looking for my next win. Merck is still chugging strong but I got out of it too early. I think it is like $75 now...I hate looking.

I am interested in Arrowhead and Nektar as potentials to make outsized returns (or huge losses). Nektar probably I will dip into if it drops to $30 as they are showing some promise on their trials and perhaps have been unfairly punished from their recent $100 highs. They have a couple billion in the bank, so if it drops to $5B market cap I might have to buy in. Arrowhead signed a deal with the devil J&J for up to 3 point something billion in potential payments plus an investment at $23 a share so if it drops back to the $12 area I might buy into that too.
 

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I opened the RH account a week ago - they made the $1k instant cash immediately available for trading when I initiated the transfer - which is pretty cool. I sold my free ZNGA share the moment it allowed me.

I'm just getting my sea legs at this point. I really like RH, but quickly adjusted my thinking from traditional brokerage trading as a result of no commissions. You no longer have to "worry" if you're buying too much and then watching the stock immediately head lower. You can just buy 5 or 10 or even 1 share and then buy more small amounts if it heads lower. You can't think that way if you're paying $4.95 or more for each trade. Even with my 100 commission free trades/month with BofA/ML - I wouldn't consider buying so few shares at one time.

I keep my real-time Fidelity Active Trader up so I can view Level II - RH lets me muck with the market makers by putting a bid in for a tiny number of shares to combat the way they mess with me and others. Interestingly enough, the market maker will still muck with me at times - will just ignore a bid I put in for so few shares and fill larger orders sitting at lower bids. Even so, there's a certain feeling of calm in placing a market order for 1 or 2 shares...completely stress free.

Similar to you, I'm treating it as casino money - just looking to churn it as much/quickly as I can. I have nothing against taking a $5 or $10 profit for holding a few days, hours, or minutes...the alternative is the $1k would be sitting in a cash account or CD getting 3% a year or less. I'm working on getting a feel for sizing my trades appropriately for the strategy I'm using. I don't do options or margin, so I likely won't reach $250k as rapidly as you will (additionally, I'm starting at $1,000). But, it will be interesting to see how this experiment goes. I'm confident that I'll easily be able to outperform the 3% (or even 4% or 5%) CD.
 
Keytruda is doing extremely well and it is likely to help boost the stock to the $65 area by EOY from the current $61 area. The options are cheap enough that this $4 move could mean a 100% gain on Jan 2019 strikes.
Merck is still chugging strong but I got out of it too early. I think it is like $75 now...I hate looking.
I have two in-laws that are on Keytruda and it's working for both. One gets super itchy, but tumors are shrinking. Otherwise, not impacting quality of life as bad as some other options.



I have become very sour on the stock market in general, and have come to the conclusion that if I can consistently make a few hundred dollars a month on a $10k account, simply churning in and out of a few stocks which I am very familiar with, then why the heck not?
I've known a few people that were successful in day trading...until they weren't. But I hope you guys can keep it up. Looks like Fermion, you've documented about $45 in unrealized gains so far. Congrats! In this account, it doesn't look like you shorted KITE before they got bought out. That's a relief!
 
I bought into Arrowhead (ARWR) 450 shares, which is nearly the entire RobinHood balance. Man I hope this isn't a mistake like I almost had with Geron. I am looking for a run to $15 again to try and make a quick kilobuck and get me over $7,000 but this might be my white whale.

I just hope there is some ASH rallying. Might be.

There are so so many potholes in the road ahead to $250,000 I am getting nervous about the trip. I am not changing my mind though, just saying that this thing could blow up at any time.

Lets wake up next week and find someone bought Arrowhead for $3B which would triple my account. That would be super nice.
 
I bought January calls in Arrowhead over the last couple of days. I don’t have nearly as much as you at stake. I prefer to spread out my bets to try and minimize any losses. But I’m all for them going up!

Which reminds me that I wanted to share my numbers. I started with 5k and made my first purchase on 10/3 (Endocyte no less). Right now I’m at $8,800, a 76% gain, which is down from my high of almost 10k ($2 short!).

And for the record, I’ll be surprised if I can sustain this and I’m fully prepared for this to blow up on me at some point. But in the meantime, it’s been surprisingly fun.
 
I sold my 450 shares of Arrowhead for a $160 gain and now am at $6170 and all cash (except for the ~$40 in free stocks). Normally I probably would have held but there is volatility and it is free to trade so trade I will do. I would like to get back in on a dip below $13. I need just a couple more trades this year to hit $6400 which would be my needed gain at the end of 2019 to stay on track for my 10,000% in 10 year goal.
 
Hi all!

Just a little update. I weathered the storms, on our sailboat and in RobinHood! I was mostly able to do this because the account sits in cash 90% of the time while I wait for extreme bargains.

Currently the account is sitting at $6615 and change, which is a gain of about 165% since I opened the account and started this thread in summer 2018. Boho would be proud.

Honestly it is just really easy to make money on these micro trades when you don't have to pay commissions. Even with the small amount of money the account has though, I think my hourly rate is decent considering I spend maybe 10 to 20 min a week on the trading, if that. It is more fun than a slot machine but not as much fun as a Texas Holdem tournament with a $100 buy-in.

I don't want people to think this is a viable way to trade a serious portfolio though. I am just above average lucky.
 

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An update for the new year! I have to post a bit of a loss recently. I had purchased Celgene for what I thought was a bargain price of $65.75 only to see it drop to $59 over the Christmas eve route in the market. I wanted to be all cash at the end of the year in the account for some silly reasons and so I sold the 95 shares for $63.75 on Monday, taking the $200 loss grudgingly. At least the account starts 2019 all cash except the free stocks I am still holding.

Currently at $6410, which is a gain of 163%. Not a bad start considering I only had half a year so far.

(I bet that Celgene will be back at $70 in a flash....grrr)
 

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