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08-31-2016, 12:25 PM
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#21
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Someone here posted a few months ago that "from 20 feet away the upward market trend line is a pretty straight line over the past 50 years."
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08-31-2016, 01:49 PM
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#22
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Oh yeah?!? Time for some music then.
Here's "Up Around The Bend" by CCR. I am sure many posters here are old enough to recall this song.
Up Around The Bend
There's a place up ahead and I'm goin'
Just as fast as my feet can fly
Come away, come away if you're goin'
Leave the sinkin' ship behind
Come on the risin' wind,
We're goin' up around the bend...
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08-31-2016, 02:03 PM
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#23
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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"Nobody knows nothin". John Bogle
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08-31-2016, 06:02 PM
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#24
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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I guess we're gonna see something, sometime.
Shiller PE Ratio
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09-01-2016, 01:56 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Sep 2012
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They're not wrong, they're early.
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09-01-2016, 04:51 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gcgang
They're not wrong, they're early. ��
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That makes sense, since they were late on the last one...
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09-01-2016, 06:50 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: May 2014
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Stock market experts? What experts?
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09-01-2016, 06:54 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: May 2014
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Everyone knows the stock market can't go up forever. We have had corrections since 2009. But if anyone actually knew what they were talking about they would be able to tell us when the downturn would happen and the severity of it. They can't do it. Why? Because they don't know. Don't we all know as much?
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Understanding both the power of compound interest and the difficulty of getting it is the heart and soul of understanding a lot of things. Charlie Munger
The first rule of compounding: Never interupt it unnecessarily. Charlie Munger
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09-01-2016, 07:29 AM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 141
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future."
-Nils Bohr, Nobel laureate in Physics
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09-04-2016, 04:01 PM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Cottage Grove
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I had a 46% return in my 401K in 2012. It's now worth double what it was at the beginning of 2012. My 401K has been all in equities since 1990 except for the past year when I've been moving part of my company stock in and out of cash on dips and spikes in share price. I'm about to get a little more conservative though.
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09-04-2016, 04:14 PM
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Moderator
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Location: Flyover country
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It's true!
Experts have more expertise than the rest of us, according to experts.
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09-04-2016, 04:15 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Location: Kansas City
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09-04-2016, 05:28 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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We'll poo-poo this until reality reasserts, which may not be long.
Then many members will disappear.
Which likely makes a difference mostly to them, but they will wonder what happened.
I saw a recent article(can't remember where. They are all meaningless) This article gave all sorts of reasons why high Shiller ratio, high S&P to GNP ratio, high price to sales and little growth don't matter. Either these ratios are meaningless, or are justified by very low interest rates. This is all crap, as we will find out in the fullness of time.
Ha
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09-09-2016, 02:31 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Location: Colorado
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09-09-2016, 06:47 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by COcheesehead
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I fixed the illustration.
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09-09-2016, 09:08 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by haha
We'll poo-poo this until reality reasserts, which may not be long.
Then many members will disappear.
Which likely makes a difference mostly to them, but they will wonder what happened.
I saw a recent article(can't remember where. They are all meaningless) This article gave all sorts of reasons why high Shiller ratio, high S&P to GNP ratio, high price to sales and little growth don't matter. Either these ratios are meaningless, or are justified by very low interest rates. This is all crap, as we will find out in the fullness of time.
Ha
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What is the "this" we are poo-pooing? I'm not trying to give you a hard time, just not sure which of the above comments you are referring to. The OP, who is mocking the experts opinion and implying that the market will continue up forever? Or the experts saying we are over valued? I agree with that one myself. Caution is healthy.
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09-10-2016, 05:25 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Dec 2015
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I'm "cautiously pessimistic"...
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09-15-2016, 08:48 PM
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gone traveling
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When the markets get the shakes of even talk of a slight interest rate increase, I think they're overvalued, more so big dividend stocks than growth ones.
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09-16-2016, 04:11 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Seems to me the media has a need to fill air and print columns. So they drag up experts, brokers etc. to spout off.
IMHO brokers don't care if the public buys or sells, as long as they can jolt them into buying or selling as often as possible.
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09-16-2016, 04:50 AM
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Recycles dryer sheets
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Ginned up negative news sells......
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