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12-27-2020, 10:18 AM
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Someone above mentioned going through Las Vegas, and Kingman and Wickenburg Az on Rte 93 to Phoenix. That route could work too. Flagstaff is at 7500', Kingman at 3000', Wickenburg at 2000'.
Wickenburg and Kingman should be below the snow line. Although I've seen snow in North Scottsdale around 2400' a few times in 17 winters there. 8" once a couple of years ago.
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12-27-2020, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuckanut
California's hotel rule, I assume that is for people staying in the state. Surely, those passing through are not a big Covid threat. They will spend most of their time in a vehicle, rest stop fast food take out line, and maybe a hotel room.
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California's hotel rule applies to all non-essential travelers. There's really no such thing as "passing through" right now, because everyone who enters the state is supposed to immediately quarantine.
Hotels probably won't take reservations because that leaves a paper trail showing they violated the health order and there are actual penalties for that if anyone decides to enforce them. I suspect some will allow overnight stays if you just show up, but I don't know how you plan your stops in advance without knowing.
I am assuming they are not moving to Arizona to perform essential work? If they are, then some document demonstrating their employment status should be sufficient.
From the state's Covid pages here
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How does the Regional Stay Home Order impact travel?
Hotels and lodging cannot accept or honor out-of-state reservations for non-essential travel, unless the reservation is for at least the minimum time period required for quarantine and the persons identified in the reservation will quarantine in the hotel or lodging entity until after that time period has expired.
When the Regional Stay Home Order is in effect in a region, hotels and lodging can only offer accommodation for COVID-19 mitigation and containment measures, treatment measures, accommodation for essential workers, or providing housing solutions, including measures to protect homeless populations.
Additionally, the Travel Advisory remains in effect.
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12-27-2020, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuckanut
My big concern is weather. And lonely roads are probably not an option since this child is a female. She will be traveling with a female friend. I don't want them stranded with no cell coverage. Becoming a father only takes a few minutes. Being a daddy lasts forever.
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I have a DD19. I hear you.
If your child and her friend are college age and reasonably responsible drivers, then the route through Ellensburg / Pendleton / Boise / SLC would be "safe enough" in my opinion - although that's just input for you; it's obviously up to you and your child to decide what is safe enough for you. There is cell coverage all along that route, and generally plenty of traffic even in relatively bad weather.
Again, the only tough part is over the Blues. You can actually see real time camera views, and I think even weather reports and road issues at tripcheck.com. And Oregon is pretty good with their road maintenance - they have plows and sanders going over that part of the route pretty much 24/7 if needed.
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12-27-2020, 02:05 PM
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I can only comment on the Las Vegas-Kingman-Phoenix part of the route, but it will be fine. We do it a couple of times every winter in an RV, without issues. FWIW, that part of US 93 will become I-11, and is already labeled as such coming out of Las Vegas.
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12-27-2020, 02:41 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2020
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Originally Posted by Ronstar
Someone above mentioned going through Las Vegas, and Kingman and Wickenburg Az on Rte 93 to Phoenix. That route could work too. Flagstaff is at 7500', Kingman at 3000', Wickenburg at 2000'.
Wickenburg and Kingman should be below the snow line. Although I've seen snow in North Scottsdale around 2400' a few times in 17 winters there. 8" once a couple of years ago.
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And the LV/Kingman route only adds about 20' compared to going through Flagstaff.
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12-27-2020, 03:12 PM
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I would go with route #1 with the advise that Scrapr gave with tripcheck. The only worries should be with the southern Oregon passes unless stuff gets stupid.
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12-27-2020, 03:40 PM
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My 2 cents. I had a project in the Phoenix area when I w#@ked, but mostly flew there. For many years my wife has had a horse show south of Palm Springs in January/Feb. Each year we have driven our huge triple slide out camper on our dually trucks towing a 3 horse trailer and stayed there for several weeks. The route down I-5 has 2 passes, both have been clear every time but we always carried chains for all 4 axles required by CA. It is a short drive from there over to Phoenix on I-10.
As long as the weather is tracked, it is not an issue to drive these two passes towing. We most recently have stopped in Corning at the Rolling Hills Casino which has RV and horse layover, and nice rooms at their two hotels. Cheap eats too! Its about 13 hours south on I-5 from Seattle or about 700 miles. From there the trip to Phoenix via the 10 crossing the Grapevine is another 800 miles (rough guess). The other pass is the Tajachapi (spelling?) It can avoid LA traffic, but can be worse in snow.....
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12-27-2020, 05:06 PM
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Back in late January 1985, I was in the Navy and was transferred from Seattle to Groton CT. The young wife and I drove down I-5 South through Washington to Grant's Pass Oregon, where we took US-199 to Crescent City, California. Then we drove down to San Francisco on US-101. After two days in SF, we made our way over to Stockton, then took California 99 South down the middle of the Central Valley to Bakersfield. Then took California 58 over to Barstow, where we caught I-40 East into Arizona. We did go to Flagstaff, because we wanted to see the Grand Canyon, but I can verify that there was a whole lot of snow up that way. I did note that we could have turned off on US-93 South at Kingman and driven down to Phoenix instead.
We didn't have a tow, so I can't advise on that aspect, but I do recall that the road was clear and good the entire trip and we had no problems.
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12-28-2020, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Gumby
Back in late January 1985, The young wife and I drove down I-5 South through Washington to Grant's Pass Oregon, where we took US-199 to Crescent City, California.
We didn't have a tow, so I can't advise on that aspect, but I do recall that the road was clear and good the entire trip and we had no problems.
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Well, that is an awesome route to take, and it is the contingency route to go to the coast if you see the Siskiyou's is snowed up and not clear. It certainly is the long cut to go that way, the coast hwy is slow to go and gets traffic, but you at least can stop and see the Redwood forest!
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12-28-2020, 12:00 PM
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My sister came to visit for Christmas and stayed in a hotel in San Diego. She had made the reservation back in September before we changed tiers. No one questioned her as to whether or not her stay was essential and she only stayed two days, not fourteen.
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