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Old 07-04-2017, 02:23 PM   #61
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From the preceding comments I'm starting to wonder if restroom breaks have to be very well planned, and scheduled waaay before the actual need arises....after all, deactivating the above mentioned security controls has to be time consuming?
There is an easier way. Just distribute your credit and debit cards, along with your cash, among your bodyguards. Then you don't have to carry anything and can just let them pick up the tabs. Simple and effective.
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There is an easier way. Just distribute your credit and debit cards, along with your cash, among your bodyguards. Then you don't have to carry anything and can just let them pick up the tabs. Simple and effective.
Yabbut, all that finger clicking and gesticulating to one's entourage can become tedious.
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Bringing back this thread to ask a question regarding Andalusia region. I saw Rick Steve's video last night about this region and was intrigued by the some of the architecture of the churches in this region. But this might be a problem, the weather. I waited too long and all the off peak business class seats from British airways were gone. So the earliest I could be in this area is middle of June, will it be too late, i.e. too hot. Maybe I go next time. I was thinking of just doing Barcelona.
It wasn't bad when we were there mid-June. Only 106F or so some days But it's a dry heat. So I guess it depends on how you feel about average highs in the upper 80's, with the chance that it'll be 95-105 highs the entire time you're there (our experience almost the entire 2 weeks we spent in Portugal and southern Spain in mid to late June).

But honestly it really is a dry heat. 90F and 25% humidity feels like 75F and high humidity in NC. You sweat a little, clothes get damp, then get in the shade and the wind blows and 90F can feel chilly. Our 5 year old is a good barometer for heat - he melts in 90F temps at home but didn't have much of a problem with 95-100F here. We spent 6 hours outside at La Alhambra and it was 95F+ half the time.

FYI, I'd almost recommend skipping La Alhambra because of the hassle and the crowds if you're only going to Granada to see that. The Alcazar in Seville is sort of similar and much cheaper/easier to access and even offers free admission (Mondays at 6 IIRC).

Overall, I'd recommend going in the shoulder seasons. May and September might be nice, and you'll probably be even more comfortable in April and October.
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Overall, I'd recommend going in the shoulder seasons. May and September might be nice, and you'll probably be even more comfortable in April and October.
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It wasn't bad when we were there mid-June. Only 106F or so some days But it's a dry heat. So I guess it depends on how you feel about average highs in the upper 80's, with the chance that it'll be 95-105 highs the entire time you're there (our experience almost the entire 2 weeks we spent in Portugal and southern Spain in mid to late June).

But honestly it really is a dry heat. 90F and 25% humidity feels like 75F and high humidity in NC. You sweat a little, clothes get damp, then get in the shade and the wind blows and 90F can feel chilly. Our 5 year old is a good barometer for heat - he melts in 90F temps at home but didn't have much of a problem with 95-100F here. We spent 6 hours outside at La Alhambra and it was 95F+ half the time.

FYI, I'd almost recommend skipping La Alhambra because of the hassle and the crowds if you're only going to Granada to see that. The Alcazar in Seville is sort of similar and much cheaper/easier to access and even offers free admission (Mondays at 6 IIRC).

Overall, I'd recommend going in the shoulder seasons. May and September might be nice, and you'll probably be even more comfortable in April and October.
Thank you for your information. If I do go there, I need to look careful at Airbnb with A/C. I don't know if I can deal with 106F degree, dry heat or not. My kid was in London a couple of days ago and she complained it was 86 degree.

Yes, I agree about going in May, but I made a mistake of waiting too long. This is the first time I have to book with a companion ticket.
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Thank you for your information. If I do go there, I need to look careful at Airbnb with A/C. I don't know if I can deal with 106F degree, dry heat or not. My kid was in London a couple of days ago and she complained it was 86 degree.
We busted out our wallets and paid up for the airbnbs with AC in Lisbon, all across southern Spain, and all across Italy for our June-July segment in southern Europe. We didn't specifically look for it here in Ljubljana, Slovenia where we are now but I'm glad we have it in the main living room at least. 90-92F highs most of the time we've been here (vs 77F average highs this time of year :/ ).

I've learned the hard way not to bottom fish for low prices on airbnbs. You'll usually be better off skipping the cheapest 10-20% of properties if your budget allows. That also means you get some perks like AC and clothes dryer included in the rental.

Enjoy Andalusia. Very different feel than most of the rest of Europe. Seeing road signs and food packaging in Arabic was interesting, but not surprising considering we were 75-125 miles from Arabic speaking Morocco for the duration of our Andalusian stays.
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Yeah, I'm trying to get to some nice places in shoulder season but these kids of ours have school till June and go back in late August. Felt like a sucker in Venice with all the crowds and lines. Said "no thanks" to waiting in any of the lines and enjoyed the outside of a lot of buildings (and huge gelato cones and take out pizza in my air conditioned airbnb ).
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Said "no thanks" to waiting in any of the lines and enjoyed the outside of a lot of buildings
This is our established modus operandi....not to mention modus vivendi.
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This is our established modus operandi....not to mention modus vivendi.
It was hot, the line stretched a long way and 100% sunny. It was some church in Venice - St Marks or something. Figured we'd see a ton more church interiors in the next 5 weeks in Europe and I might end up in Venice again at some point in the next 50 years.

So far the only lines we've waited in were to get into the Alcazar palace in Seville on the free night. Took about 20 minutes and we were in the shade the whole time. And had a perfect view of the cathedral so we drank in that view while waiting. By minute 20 I kind of regretted not paying the $30 or whatever the family tickets would cost to get in anytime, but it was nice that we waited till a couple hours before sundown to see the palace since the heat was much less intense.

We saw a similarly huge line to get into the Milan cathedral. Strange, because it seems like as kids we would do anything we could to avoid going into a church and here folks are as adults waiting in the hot sun to get into church?!?!
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