Travel right now: FAIR WARNING!

Sojourner

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Having just returned from a weeklong, cross-country trip for a cousin's wedding and some sightseeing/vacationing in the area, I can safely say that the travel situation in the U.S. right now is... well, to put it kindly... a bit of a disaster. So this post is my "word to the wise" for those of us who might be contemplating travel but are wondering whether it's worth the hassle this summer. I have to say that, based on my recent experience, it is NOT, but read on if you're interested in the particulars.

First of all, the situation with air travel right now is an unmitigated disaster. Our flight from Atlanta to the west coast was canceled, out of the blue, as we were standing in line to check in for our flight. There were no other flights available (according to the agent), not even flights to nearby airports. And to add insult to injury, they refused to help us find flights on other airlines that were heading to (or close to) our destination, instead only offering us seats on a flight TWO DAYS from our scheduled departure. This was entirely unacceptable, as we would have missed the wedding and all related festivities entirely.

After a full 90 minutes of back and forth, with the agent calling (and being placed on extended hold) and DW and I calling and waiting on a one-hour hold with the airline, we finally got the agent to agree to escalate our dilemma to a top-level customer care rep who secured two seats on a flight to a city 120 miles away. We boarded that flight a full 2½ hours after our originally scheduled departure (that flight was itself delayed), and arrived at our new "nearby" destination at nearly 4:30am. We only laid our heads down to sleep, exhausted and exasperated, after spending an additional $250 to book a hotel room last minute near the new destination airport, and spending $35 for an Uber to take us there (no taxis available at that time of night).

The next morning, we had to get to our original destination city ASAP, but did not have a rental car or other ready means of transportation at our disposal. (Our rental car was waiting for us at the original destination airport). After looking at a few options, we decided to spend $140 to hire an Uber to drive us the 120 miles to our rental car pickup spot. When we got there, we stood in a one hour line to check in to pick up our car, only to be told that THERE WERE NO CARS AVAILABLE. :facepalm: Apparently, they were very short staffed and returning cars were bring processed (cleaned, prepped, refueled, etc.) by a skeleton crew, leading to 45-60 minute waits for people picking up their cars. So, we waited... and waited... and waited some more. Finally, after about 50 minutes, we got our car and were on our way. We literally felt like we'd won the lottery after driving out of there.

Fortunately, everything else on our trip went pretty smoothly after that, but boy was that first 24 hours a nerve-wracking, aggravating ordeal. My advice to anyone who is on the fence about traveling right now is, DON'T, unless you absolutely have to or you have a very easygoing, calm, happy-go-lucky attitude about delays, cancellations, and snags of all sorts you're very likely to encounter. Otherwise, probably best to wait until the summer travel crush is over and the airlines and rental car companies have regained their footing.
 
I recently read a post somewhere from a flight attendant giving thoughts on travel right now.

Their most adamant piece of advice was to give yourself at least a day of float (2 is better) for any "time sensitive trip" (wedding, graduation, cruise, etc.)

That is always good advice, but with thousands of flights being cancelled every week, it is even more critical now.

FWIW, DW had a cancelled flight retuning home from our nephew's graduation. Spent the night in Phoenix. Not happy about it, but not a big deal either.
 
I'm leaving for a tour of E. Europe in early August and returning (God help me) on Labor Day. Staying overnight in London both ways, I hope that provides some slack in case something goes wrong.
 
I hope the mess clears up. We are leaving late August for a 6 week trip to Switzerland/Northern Italy/France. We have been conditioning our bodies for the high altitude hikes and climbing that we are planning.
 
My current plan is a driving trip to Connecticut this Fall. Hotels may be more expensive and I won't have to deal with airlines! :)
 
... Otherwise, probably best to wait until the summer travel crush is over and the airlines and rental car companies have regained their footing.


I am headed to Europe in early September. I surely hope the vacationing crowd already thins out by then. It seems to be, because hotel rates are lower than in August.

Some cities even lift parking fees and restrictions in September, and allow free parking. Hurray!
 
Yeah it sounds like most of the flight cancellations are domestic?

I took three trips to Europe last summer and two so far this year.

I believe they said domestic flights in the US in summer 2021 was over 100% of domestic flights in the summer of 2019.

Europe flights from the US were not at 2019 levels.

This summer though, fares are higher so that may reflect higher demand, even before they dropped the test requirement to return to the US.
 
I thought I had some bad flights but yours was nothing short of a disaster. Amazing that you actually got to the wedding on time. Clearly you need a 'vacation from your vacation'. I've been looking at airfares and right now it's crazy. Not a good time to travel by air.
 
Yeah it sounds like most of the flight cancellations are domestic?

I took three trips to Europe last summer and two so far this year.

I believe they said domestic flights in the US in summer 2021 was over 100% of domestic flights in the summer of 2019.

Europe flights from the US were not at 2019 levels.

This summer though, fares are higher so that may reflect higher demand, even before they dropped the test requirement to return to the US.


Just saw headline from Euronews:

Lufthansa is the latest European airline to cancel thousands of flights at the last minute...
 
I went to New Hampshire the last week of April and no such problems.
Think I'll stick with traveling outside the usual tourist season of summer.
Air travel is bad enough when it is not delayed or cancelled.
 
+1. Should be ok until we get to popular tourist destinations.

With a condo or suite with full kitchen or home should be OK. But you probably have to avoid the dining inside restaurant scene.

We’ve been more looking at mountain cabins and planning on hiking, outdoor sightseeing.
 
DB and SIL just returned from an Alaska cruise and their flights back to the east coast were similarly SNAFUed. I’m not planning to travel but I live near I-81 and hopped on for a couple of exits yesterday. I used to drive it routinely for w*rk and was used to crowded lanes, but yesterday was a whole new adventure.
 
Hopefully us road trippers will be OK.

Yep, the more you can avoid airports and rental cars (and maybe even hotels), the better. This is what I plan to do as much as possible, although sometimes, as with weddings or other family obligations in far-off locations, air travel is basically unavoidable.
 
I thought I had some bad flights but yours was nothing short of a disaster. Amazing that you actually got to the wedding on time.

Yes, we did miss the earlier wedding-related events due to our canceled flight and next day rental car fiasco, but luckily we managed to make it to the two "big" events. DW and I both really like this particular cousin whose event it was, but we both grumbled to ourselves that they chose the peak of the summer travel season to schedule this thing.

I've been looking at airfares and right now it's crazy. Not a good time to travel by air.

+1000, neither from a travel cost perspective nor from an ease/comfort/reliability perspective.
 
I had recounted my story in the Travel Hopes thread about how I was unable to join a tour that was going to a remote area in Peru due to my initial flight to Miami's being canceled 4 hours before takeoff, and the next one offered me arriving 48 hours later - after the group had flown out to the remote area. I had scheduled myself to arrive 36 hours early. I had paid for good and expensive travel insurance.

I submitted my travel insurance claim today and it was denied within 3 hours - due to "overbooking" and how that was not a "covered reason." I have proof that it wasn't just my ticket that was canceled, but the entire flight. It is totally illogical that an entire flight would be canceled due to an "overbooking," as that would exacerbate the airline's schedules issues further.

I have uploaded my proof that the flight was cancelled entirely - never departed - and asked for a reconsideration. But what is next? "Oh, we meant that the flight crews were overbooked." How could the insurance company make such a stupid statement?
 
This summer though, fares are higher so that may reflect higher demand, even before they dropped the test requirement to return to the US.

And now that the testing requirement has finally been dropped, I can only imagine the increased demand, higher fares, overcrowded planes, canceled flights, and overworked/frazzled flight crews that are bound to ensue. IMHO, it's a bit of a perfect storm for travelers eager to get back out into the world.
 
Hopefully us road trippers will be OK.

+1

Increased traffic is a hassle but highway hotels don’t act as badly as the airlines.

Airlines have been doing this for years, but it clearly is getting worse. The most important lesson I learned when something similar happened to me is, when hotel and auto rentals are involved, travel insurance is a must, even for simple domestic trips.
 
We are not flying until mid-October. I am sincerely hoping that things improve by then.
 
I had recounted my story in the Travel Hopes thread about how I was unable to join a tour that was going to a remote area in Peru due to my initial flight to Miami's being canceled 4 hours before takeoff, and the next one offered me arriving 48 hours later - after the group had flown out to the remote area. I had scheduled myself to arrive 36 hours early. I had paid for good and expensive travel insurance.

I submitted my travel insurance claim today and it was denied within 3 hours - due to "overbooking" and how that was not a "covered reason." I have proof that it wasn't just my ticket that was canceled, but the entire flight. It is totally illogical that an entire flight would be canceled due to an "overbooking," as that would exacerbate the airline's schedules issues further.

I have uploaded my proof that the flight was cancelled entirely - never departed - and asked for a reconsideration. But what is next? "Oh, we meant that the flight crews were overbooked." How could the insurance company make such a stupid statement?

Keep us in the loop as to how your claim goes, and feel free to name the insurance company so in the end we know if they are worth using.
 
I had recounted my story in the Travel Hopes thread about how I was unable to join a tour that was going to a remote area in Peru due to my initial flight to Miami's being canceled 4 hours before takeoff, and the next one offered me arriving 48 hours later - after the group had flown out to the remote area. I had scheduled myself to arrive 36 hours early. I had paid for good and expensive travel insurance.

I submitted my travel insurance claim today and it was denied within 3 hours - due to "overbooking" and how that was not a "covered reason." I have proof that it wasn't just my ticket that was canceled, but the entire flight. It is totally illogical that an entire flight would be canceled due to an "overbooking," as that would exacerbate the airline's schedules issues further.

I have uploaded my proof that the flight was cancelled entirely - never departed - and asked for a reconsideration. But what is next? "Oh, we meant that the flight crews were overbooked." How could the insurance company make such a stupid statement?

This is a great example of exactly why I have avoided buying travel insurance. Too many gotchas of this sort in the ultra fine print. The insurance providers have WAY too much leeway to interpret these T&C for their own benefit. And they know that the vast majority of insured travelers won't take legal action to challenge their unethical, self-serving denials of claims.

DW and I have agreed that we will (for the time being) purchase only fully refundable/changeable airfare, hotel rooms, and other travel-related bookings in an effort to have some sort of ad-hoc travel insurance.
 
I had recounted my story in the Travel Hopes thread about how I was unable to join a tour that was going to a remote area in Peru due to my initial flight to Miami's being canceled 4 hours before takeoff, and the next one offered me arriving 48 hours later - after the group had flown out to the remote area. I had scheduled myself to arrive 36 hours early. I had paid for good and expensive travel insurance.

I submitted my travel insurance claim today and it was denied within 3 hours - due to "overbooking" and how that was not a "covered reason." I have proof that it wasn't just my ticket that was canceled, but the entire flight. It is totally illogical that an entire flight would be canceled due to an "overbooking," as that would exacerbate the airline's schedules issues further.

I have uploaded my proof that the flight was cancelled entirely - never departed - and asked for a reconsideration. But what is next? "Oh, we meant that the flight crews were overbooked." How could the insurance company make such a stupid statement?


I hope you will get reimbursed. I am afraid travel insurers are faced with big losses from travel problems like yours, and are doing their best to deny claims.

No, they are not stupid, just wanting to cover their *sses. Coverage denied! Denied! Denied!
 
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What kind of travel insurance is that! Flight is cancelled because there is an issue with the crew, and they don’t cover that situation?!?
 

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