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06-18-2020, 09:24 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: GTA
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Originally Posted by JDARNELL
November 4th
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I guess the UK must reopen on the 5th of November then.... remember ?
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06-18-2020, 09:53 AM
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#22
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 257
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With this summer's trip cancelled, I am hopeful for next summer.
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06-18-2020, 09:22 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Toronto
Posts: 3,321
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DW is hoping to visit her family in England in November. Perhaps they will give Commonwealth countries special consideration. She is hoping that the 14-day quarantine requirement will be lifted by then.
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06-19-2020, 02:41 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Placerville
Posts: 1,788
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Not Europe, but travel, none the less;
I was planning a trip to Hawaii, Maui to be precise, but decided not to after checking with the hotel.
I was told that there's a 14 day quarantine, and to enforce it, when checking in the room card/key will only work once; to get into the room. If I leave the room and the door locks behind me, I won't be able to get in. I'll have to go to the front desk, where they will let me back in AND call the police who will come and probably cite me but could actually arrest me if I do it more than once. Man! That is tight!
Lots of other restrictions after the 14 days as well. I'm told you are allowed to walk across the beach to get to the ocean, and to walk back, but you can not stroll the beach or stop, sit, lay or otherwise occupy the beach. No opening date for that.
So I'm not going to plan a trip. At least not until I can freely enjoy the past times of the amenities.
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06-19-2020, 04:39 AM
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#25
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 8,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skipro33
I was told that there's a 14 day quarantine, and to enforce it, when checking in the room card/key will only work once; to get into the room. If I leave the room and the door locks behind me, I won't be able to get in. I'll have to go to the front desk, where they will let me back in AND call the police who will come and probably cite me but could actually arrest me if I do it more than once.
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At least you could learn to hula at the reeducation camp. (After the thrice daily confession-of-sins classes, of course.)
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06-19-2020, 04:54 AM
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#26
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 12,659
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Well, islands need to be stricter about most everything. I bet the hoteliers hate these rules, though - terrible for business.
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Originally Posted by skipro33
Not Europe, but travel, none the less;
I was planning a trip to Hawaii, Maui to be precise, but decided not to after checking with the hotel.
I was told that there's a 14 day quarantine, and to enforce it, when checking in the room card/key will only work once; to get into the room. If I leave the room and the door locks behind me, I won't be able to get in. I'll have to go to the front desk, where they will let me back in AND call the police who will come and probably cite me but could actually arrest me if I do it more than once. Man! That is tight!
Lots of other restrictions after the 14 days as well. I'm told you are allowed to walk across the beach to get to the ocean, and to walk back, but you can not stroll the beach or stop, sit, lay or otherwise occupy the beach. No opening date for that.
So I'm not going to plan a trip. At least not until I can freely enjoy the past times of the amenities.
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06-19-2020, 06:43 AM
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#27
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Location: Huntsville, AL/Helen, GA
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Our trip home from Berlin was cancelled, and American Airlines is still hoarding our airfares.
We have been going to Europe yearly, however have given up on going anywhere this year.
Domestic trips no longer interest us, as we seldom even visit cities 100 miles away. Other than going to our RV in the mountains, we're hanging in semi-quarantine.
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June 19 Covid Map from NYT
06-19-2020, 10:52 AM
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#28
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Bangkok
Posts: 234
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June 19 Covid Map from NYT
As long as Covid is very active in US, Europe should protect its citizens and close the borders to the US.
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06-21-2020, 06:33 AM
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 670
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Here in Norway we have opened our borders to Denmark and Finland. But not to other neighboring countries like Sweden or the Brits. The difference being how well the countries have stopped COVID-19 - or not.
From over here it very much looks like the US is in the "or not" category.
Not that my country is perfect - we have our covidiots too. The number of cases is slightly up recently after we lifted some restrictions and then the distance ignoring BLM-demos we had in several of our cities. Many people in their twenties have stopped distancing and hand washing.
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06-22-2020, 09:40 AM
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Oct 2013
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I was Googling around on this topic over the weekend and came upon this article, which was updated on June 19th. The statement that caught my eye was that Germany has extended its border restrictions for non-EU countries until August 31st. I poked around a bit to try to confirm that, and it appears true. The linked DW source calls them "warnings", but I assume that it amounts to the same thing. That's put my mood back a bit. I still think September may be possible, but I'm certainly not trying to book any travel yet.
https://www.afar.com/magazine/is-int...will-it-resume
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06-22-2020, 09:45 AM
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#31
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Rio Grande Valley
Posts: 38,145
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Quote:
Originally Posted by samm
As long as Covid is very active in US, Europe should protect its citizens and close the borders to the US.
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Gosh, they can say whatever they want to about weather reducing the virus impact, but the hot and humid southeast is clearly rocking the COVID-19 infections!
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06-22-2020, 09:48 AM
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#32
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Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 8,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NoiseBoy
I still think September may be possible, but I'm certainly not trying to book any travel yet.
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Other than some cursory/superficial 'research' on Ukraine, we've made zero commitments/plans - if we can go around the start of October it'll be "There's a train leaving for Toronto Airport in 15 minutes, where are my socks?"
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June 22 Covid Map from NYT
06-22-2020, 09:56 AM
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#33
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Bangkok
Posts: 234
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June 22 Covid Map from NYT
June 22 Covid Map from NYT. Getting worse in many places.
Why would a healthy sane person voluntarily fly through/to any NYC airports on way to Europe or from EU to the USA?
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06-22-2020, 10:19 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Flyover country
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Everything canceled for this year, so the first trip of any length we have scheduled is next August (2021) in Alaska. At this point we're just hoping that one works out.
Sure do miss Europe!
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06-22-2020, 01:39 PM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 79
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Quote:
Originally Posted by samm
June 22 Covid Map from NYT. Getting worse in many places.
Why would a healthy sane person voluntarily fly through/to any NYC airports on way to Europe or from EU to the USA?
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Thats the wrong map :-) What you're looking at is the cumulative numbers map. Instead you should be looking at the hot-spots tab. Incidentally, the number of new cases in the NY-NJ area has drastically fallen and is far below that of most other areas now.
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06-22-2020, 01:41 PM
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#36
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 79
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This website: 91-DIVOC : Flip the script on COVID-19 allows you to create your own comparisons of the infection statistics in various states.
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NYT: EU to ban American travel?? June 23
06-23-2020, 02:02 PM
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#37
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Bangkok
Posts: 234
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NYT: EU to ban American travel?? June 23
E.U. May Bar American Travelers as It Reopens Borders, Citing Failures on Virus
European Union officials are racing to agree on who can visit the bloc as of July 1 based on how countries of origin are faring with new coronavirus cases. Americans, so far, are excluded, according to draft lists seen by The New York Times.
June 23, 2020
Updated 2:04 p.m. ET
BRUSSELS — European Union countries rushing to revive their economies and reopen their borders after months of coronavirus restrictions are prepared to block Americans from entering because the United States has failed to control the scourge, according to draft lists of acceptable travelers seen by The New York Times.
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Travelers from the United States and the rest of the world already had been excluded from visiting the European Union — with few exceptions mostly for repatriations or “essential travel” —- since mid-March. But a final decision on reopening the borders is expected early next week, before the bloc reopens on July 1.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/w...ravel-ban.html
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06-23-2020, 02:53 PM
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#38
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,396
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemo2
I'm guessing it'll be around the same time it opens up for Canadians.....but, ¿Quién sabe?
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As it turns out, it may open up for Canadians before Americans.
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06-23-2020, 03:21 PM
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#39
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 8,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JustCurious
As it turns out, it may open up for Canadians before Americans.
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Canary meet Coal Mine?
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06-23-2020, 11:21 PM
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#40
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Spending the Kids Inheritance and living in Chicago
Posts: 17,099
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The EU would be smart to not allow US travelers to visit, there is still no instant test and would an infected person have to turn around and fly home immediately, or jail ?
What would be the realistic and effective procedure to deal with infected people landing at the airport ?
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